A glimplse of the future for Europeans?

[Saintaw]

I think he wants us to kill all the muslims, something they tried in an easternly ex  country a while ago I think...

[Gh0stFT]

moot he may found a real reason to call muslim a real danger for the west *yawn*

[soda72]

ok lets put the Muslim thing to the side for now, and just say it's the poor people roiting....

Why would the *poor* roit in a *socialist* paradise?

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by soda72
ok lets put the Muslim thing to the side for now, and just say it's the poor people roiting....

Why would the *poor* roit in a *socialist* paradise?

You can find a thread on this bbs that I posted a few years ago about France having a very high muslim immigrant population and how that will affect her down the road (not rocket scientist stuff, mind you, but there was certainly alot of denial out there from our Euro counterparts), I think we're seeing the evidence of that now.

The violence also has cast doubt on the success of France's model of seeking to integrate its immigrant community — its Muslim population, at an estimated 5 million, is Western Europe's largest — by playing down differences between ethnic groups. Rather than feeling embraced as full and equal citizens, immigrants and their French-born children often complain of police harassment and of being refused jobs, housing and opportunities.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051103/ap_on_re_eu/france_rioting_24

[bj229r]

Kinda makes me feel better about our harmless Mexicans:D

[Boroda]

Originally posted by Saintaw
I think he wants us to kill all the muslims, something they tried in an easternly ex  country a while ago I think...

Well, I think his point is that US have to interfere again, and bomb France to "stone age" like they did to poor Serbs.

The main difference IMHO is that Serbs simply wanted to secure themselves from Moslim gangs a-la Chechnya, while in France rioters want to keep leeching more welfare from the local people.

Grun, do you still think that some Moslims should be "more equal"? I mean - do you still think that proud Chechen freedom-fighters need to be liberated from "evil barbarians who came from the East" (your real words BTW).

[GRUNHERZ]

I love the brave europeans and their total nonchalnce to the millions of culturally isolated, poor, angrry, radicilized, young and totally bored muslims living all around their countries. Even after madrid, after the london bombings, the brutal slayings and near beheadings of their citizens on streets of major european citizes in broad daylight and now the mass riots in paris all we hear from our dear euro friends about this is "yawn."

[Boroda]

Grun, so - how about proud Chechen freedom-fighters?

[GRUNHERZ]

I wish you all the luck in dealing with them Boroda, maybe one day the russian people and chechen people will be able to reconcile after what the russian army did in chechnya and the way it fought that war.

Grozny, capital city of chechnya,  in 2000 after 4 months of  "precision" anti terrorist operations by gklorious and professinal russian army...

[Boroda]

Ok, we managed to get rid of the threat, so far there are no other means to do it, at least you still keep other secret techniques of taking fortified cities away from us, silly barbarians.

I understand your post as an advise to France. Am I wrong?

[bj229r]

Christ isn't there a limit on how big these pics can be?

[GRUNHERZ]

You misunderstand boroda, I posted that picture so you can see that there are still a few buildings standing in grozny.  I'm sure you will win the chechen war by blowing up the last few standing buildings. Really.

As for advising the french? By the way its going it wont be long before paris looks like this too.

[GRUNHERZ]

Originally posted by bj229r
Christ isn't there a limit on how big these pics can be?

Mindless mongoloid bolshevik horde barabraity on this scale needs and equally large picture to show it.

[cpxxx]

Grunherz

isolated, poor, angrry, radicilized, young and totally bored muslims

Delete the word 'muslims'

isolated, poor, angrry, radicilized, young and totally bored

There's the reason for the problems.  Not their religion. They are not rioting because they're muslim. They are rioting because they are

isolated, poor, angry, radicalised, young and totally bored

This is not a new front in the 'war on terror'. It's more like the famous LA riots of a few years ago.  A reaction against perceived oppression by the authorities and basically hooligans taking advantage of a break down in law and order.

Only when France gets it's act together economically and actually does something to reduce unemployment by leaving behind failed economic policies will things change in the poorer areas of Paris. 25% unemployment among any group will always cause problems. Add in racism, sectarianism and discrimination and you have a powder keg.

One other thing to point out is that France has a long tradition of rioting as a means of social change. The CRS get a lot of use out of their helmets and riot shields.

[Boroda]

Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Mindless mongoloid bolshevik horde barabraity on this scale needs and equally large picture to show it.

Beautifull.

Now I am a mongoloid. I always thought that I'm only an asian barbarian on a shaggy mount, but mongoloid?...

JFYI, in Civil War Chechens supported bolsheviks against White Army, and White Army pacified them much more brutally then now.

Ok, back tho the topic. I almost agree with you. Unfortunately, France and other European "civilized" countries will have to abandon their "humanitarian values" to survive I wonder if they'll keep whining about "human rights" for terrorists in Russia after they'll have to execute several thousand "rioters"... Or they'll keep teaching us tolerance and the art of war at the same time, as they do now?