Check 6 calls

[Whisky58]

Sounds like you've a good attitude Jethro.  Don't get hard & cynical - keep callling those 6's.

Only other point is I like to say thanks to guys who call my 6 - nice to let folk know they're appreciated & good manners cost nowt.

Ends etiquette lecture

[fartwinkle]

Jethro dont make me sic granny on ya:)

[shegotya]

Originally posted by wrag
I call 6's and try to assist.

I prefer team flying (I'm an EX-Marine).  I avoid areas where people take some of the above attitudes.  I fly in areas where people try to work together.  I can name several people that do the same!  We have more or less learned by flying together what works for us.  (NOTE: My entire squad is very good at this!)

I talk during a fight calling out in bounds, divers, etc.

If i'm in a fight and you shoot down the plane I'm chasing GREAT!  GOOD JOB!  I'll compliment you on the shooting if there is time.  I don't care who gets the kill.  I DO want all flying in the area I'm in to RTB when the fight is over or they need fuel or ammo.

Take care of those around you!  There are at least 2 reasons to do this!

1.  It gives the nme more targets to engage and therefore more attackers to worry about and try to avoid!

2.  If you take care of them they usually return the favor or if they don't then you know to avoid flying around them.

While it's true you are responsable for your own 6, it sure helps allot when the person on the con that is on you warns you!  Frequently you can try to set the con up for them!  Instead of them worrying more about the kill they plan to get!  Possibly at your expense!  (hmm score is more important?)

Yeah ... what he said!!

For me however, I do my best to keep my friendly aware but, at times it is not always easy to see when I myself have to avoid the enemy and put lipstick on. The double stick tape doesn't always hold the mirror ... don't EVEN get me started on the cup holder!!

[EagleEyes]

Originally posted by Jackal1
CHECK 6!!!!!!





Wheeew.....my guilt just melted away.

Smartazz! lol..........


I very rarely use the check 6 botton.  Vox works so much better, you can tell the guy where to go so you can help him.  Im always giving check 6 calls because i know if i save someones ***, they will return the favor one day!


Its a nice guy thing! lol  


Egle31

[Simaril]

General rule -- if you're in a furball environment, consider the check 6 always on.

Because in a furball even if you're clear the last time you looked, you're not clear NOW.



In the furball, i rarely have enough SA to keep my own nose clean (so to speak) --much less keep tracdk of everyone else. However, when I'm in the high cover wingman role I thow out check6's like 4th of July candy off the Fire Dept float. I have a feeling a lot of people are like that -- willing but not always able to give the calls.

[Lye-El]

Originally posted by shegotya
don't EVEN get me started on the cup holder!!

Yeah! they work great in theory....until you do a negative G push over. Wipeing down the inside of the canopy with that leather hat ain't no treat either.

[shegotya]

Originally posted by Lye-El
Yeah! they work great in theory....until you do a negative G push over. Wipeing down the inside of the canopy with that leather hat ain't no treat either.

[DREDIOCK]

in a furball its tough to expect a check6 because people are busy worrying about their own 6's they may not see you in trouble even if it looks like they are pointed at you.

also I've seen people complain after they have been shot down about not gettign a check6 when it was painfully obvious they knew all along the bogies was there.

If your twisting turning and juking trying to shake someone off your tail its obvious you dont need a check6 because you obviously know he's there.

I appreciate ever check6 given to me and I give them out or warn on vox anytime I can provided I am looking in your direction and not otherwise busy.

One time I was en route to a base and at about 10K and all of a sudden someones complaining on Vox about my not giving them a check6.
My responce "I dont even know where the hell you are"

Turns out he was way down and directly underneith me in a little valley.
Well I cant help what I cant see.

Point is dont just assume people see you in trouble. and dont assume people know you dont know someone is behind you. Particularly if your moving around like there is someone behind you.

More important to me then the check6 is getting my 6 cleared.
I'd rather have someone help clear my 6 then just check it.

I follow a simple rule of thumb. I try to deal with fellow countrymen (or women) the same way I'd like to be dealt with.

I've often abandoned something I was planning on doing to help someone out in need even if at my own peril.
Usually if I can help out. I will do may damndest too.

[Sloehand]

[OK, bear with me here.  I am trying to make a point, but not really trying to aggravate everyone.  Just having fun with this.]

To boil all this down, I guess there are two basic kinds of flyers here as reflected by these responses on Check 6's.  I'll call them the Indies (individual flyers) and Teamies (teamwork flyers).  And not knocking either type initially, they just have different goals and experiences in mind in AH.  
Indies want to shoot people downl. Now, right now! Lots of them. Anybody who gets in front of their guns is fair game, icon color not withstanding (fortunately AH prevents this cannibalism of attacking green).  That's pretty much the point and enjoyment of the game for them, and any other consideration is obscene, undesirable and ignored for the most part.  And I guess that's fine for them.  It's their dime.  But what they don't seem to get is they only win against individuals one at a time.  Nothing else cause they really don't contribute much to anything else.
On the other hand, Teamies like to personnally kill their enemies too, but while shooting them down one-by-one is great, they thinks its way better to beat the crap out of ALL of them at the same time.  Like maybe actually take a base away from them and piss them off.  This is only done through teamwork.  
In fact it takes only a small amout of teamwork usually to achieve this, AND Teamies do get to shoot down planes occaisonally.  What a bonus!  
And it's really great fun to screw-up some bad guy who's thinking he's about to make a kill with a simple Check 6 call. Or shouting a "turn him right, turn him right and he's dead!" call that sends him fluttering down in flames when he almost had a kill is priceless.  And it happened because the Teamies, as best and as much as they can, protect each other.
And that surprised pilot?  Well, he and his buddies were all Indies and thinking,  "Watch your own 6 idiot.  What were you thinking? That I'D help YOU!"

[Leslie]

Check sixes are a courtesy in the game.  Used to be at times, giving a check six was not welcome because of perceived kill stealing at the time.  I checked six a playr one time and he checked six me about 10 times in retaliation because he thought I was trying to steal his kill by distracting him.  This was a big issue amongst players a couple years ago, and I for one am glad it isn't any longer.

This is a game and in my opinion the players are more mature now, though newbies, than they were back then.  Not getting a check six doesn't mean someone doesn't like you.  There's so much going on, lots of times your comrads don't see a bogie on you.  It is a good thing to give a check six to your countryman when you see it coming.  I've been shot down many times by someone I didn't know was there, and others there didn't see him either.





Les

[llama]

In my experience, the more you call out the "Check 6" for strangers around you, the more likely you are to get them in return.

Maybe its guilt. Maybe it a little mental jolt, "Hey, I can call 'Check 6' for others." Maybe after having Llama call "check 6" for them 10 times tonight, they might be more willing to call my 6 when they see Llama getting into trouble. I dunno.

The ratio of giving to getting Check 6 calls is still 20 to 1 (at best), but that means if you never give them, don't ever expect to get one. If you do give them, be prepared to issue 20 Check 6 calls before you get one from a stranger.

Of course, as countrymen start to learn who you are, and realize that you aren't a big jerk,  they'll be more likely to call your 6.

Joining a squad and flying with them is more likely to get you Check 6 calls too.

My two cents...

-Llama

[SuperDud]

Originally posted by llama
Joining a squad and flying with them is more likely to get you Check 6 calls too.

My two cents...

-Llama

yup, but my squad seems to use it most to make you break off a bandit and steal your kill:mad:

[Curval]

Originally posted by Leslie
Check sixes are a courtesy in the game.  Used to be at times, giving a check six was not welcome because of perceived kill stealing at the time.  I checked six a playr one time and he checked six me about 10 times in retaliation because he thought I was trying to steal his kill by distracting him.  This was a big issue amongst players a couple years ago, and I for one am glad it isn't any longer.

Had this happen too in the past.

One thing that hasn't been mentioned is that a Check 6 call can actually be detrimental in certain situations.  For example...you are diving in on a con and have him lined up.  The con is on the 6 of a fellow player and closing in on him.

Do you throw out a Check 6?  If so you will likely cause your fellow countryman to make some evasive manouvers, which the con will follow.  It is likely to ruin a perfect shot for you which would have made the need to call the check 6 in the first place redundant.

[Octavius]

Considering the six call a privilege is a safety valve for controlling anger and frustration.  You are the pilot, you are responsible for you and your own.  Maneuvering and pulling the trigger is not a team effort.  Teammates can not choose to put you in a sticky situation, so dont depend on them to get you out of one.

If you get a six call and it helps, cool, good for you, buy a beer for the guy.  If you don't get one and you fail, hire a wingman or learn from your mistake.  Then you can yell at him all day for not doing his job and not the entire team.

Any number of things can happen that results in no six call:
[list=1]-takes too long to tab highlight the right player
-they're afk
-they sneeze/fart
-they spill beer
-cat jumps on the keyboard
-kids are crying
-wife ack
-midgets invade
-etc etc etc!  [/list]
or! -  your teammates deliberately choose to ignore...

To go against the grain and blame your death on the highly improbable conspiracy theory is rediculous.  Let go of any dependencies and you'll find yourself enjoying the game a lot more.

[DREDIOCK]

Originally posted by Curval
Had this happen too in the past.

One thing that hasn't been mentioned is that a Check 6 call can actually be detrimental in certain situations.  For example...you are diving in on a con and have him lined up.  The con is on the 6 of a fellow player and closing in on him.

Do you throw out a Check 6?  If so you will likely cause your fellow countryman to make some evasive manouvers, which the con will follow.  It is likely to ruin a perfect shot for you which would have made the need to call the check 6 in the first place redundant.

In that situation Vox communication is best. then you can warn your countryman and let him know which way to go for you to get the best shot without him turning the wrong way.

More then one time I've said "Bogie on you (****) pilot make a slow turn to the right"