Hi,
i need to proofe that a real 109G dont accelerate endless zero power??
I need to proofe that a Fw190D9 with 2250hp and 4270kg should outaccelerate a 1850hp, 3300kg La7 in a dive by easy??
Even the 190A8 and A5 should outdive the La7. 500-1000kg more weight is not a bit, same like 500-1000kg inertia.
What i find most strange is that heavy wingloaded allied planes, like the F4U, P38 have the correct energy bleed in relation to the more light wingloaded 109´s, and even more strange are the incredible combat flaps of the F4U´s and P38´s. The P38 with full flaps can keep a level flight with 50mph, the F4U-1 do the job with 75mph, while the 109F snaproll with 80mph(all planes 25% fuel)!!
I know that the P38 had good flaps, but its wingload without flaps was very high in comparison to the 109F, which had slats and good flaps too.
The SpitfireIXc also nees at least 75mph(i know that its flaps wasnt made for combat at all).
Or compare the ta152H stallspeed with that of the P51D.
The Ta152H had 197kg/m²(25% fuel) and the P51D had 203kg/m² (25% fuel). The P51D had a semi laminar airfoil, known to give bad lift at slowspeed. The Ta152H had a incredible wing aspectratio and was made to fly at very slow speed´s.
But both planes stall almost at exact same speed(with or without flaps).
btw the P38H had a wingload with 25% fuel of 236kg/m², while the 190A8 with 4 x 20mm had 224kg/m², the 109G6 had 190kg/m², the 109F4 had 172kg/m², the F4U-1 had 179kg/m²(all 25% fuel).
Another btw: The A6M2 keep a level flight with 75mph with or without flaps.
This all dont say that much in general, but why the heavy wingloaded P38 stall later than the much more light wingloaded Ta152H, specialy cause the Ta152H had a more big aspectratio, is a miracle for me!
I could go on with strange relations, unfortunately the E-bleed isnt that easy to explain. But who ever did compare the dive acceleration between a stone and a leaf should understand the influence of the dragload to the diveacceleration(and again, strangewise the P38 already have what i would expect from other heavy wingloaded planes, but the P38 have a much to big max AoA and with flaps its the best turnfighter in game).
Heavy wingloaded plane = smal drag/load = smal E-bleed but as disadvantage often a less good powerload(not so in the case of the 109D9 with MW50), thats why such planes often suffer while sustained turns and specialy turnradius at slow speed.
As long as a heavy wingloaded plane keep highspeed (dive) turns and slowspeed stallturns(typical B&Z) no light wingloaded plane should be able to keep up.
But what do i tell, all constructors of modern fighters simply suck, cause they gave their planes so smal wing. The FW190 still count as one of the best WWII fighters, much better in a dogfight than the SpitV and still even to the SpitIXc(depending to the altitude) by mistake.
I dont wanna start to talk about the influence of the wing aspectratio to the lift and induced drag(wing efficiency), but the Spit´s , La7, Yak´s and F4U´s had a pretty poor aspectratio.
Thats the CW Spit16 stall exact like a normal Spit also is funny.
To ask for proofing all this is like asking for proofing the physical law or Darwins theory. Sure, both could be only imagination, but realy, iam not in a church here.
I know that we have a wide range where a FM/DM is somewhat credible, what iam asking for is a more balanced gameplay!
btw, the Hispano had a good muzzvel, but a pretty poor rof, therfor the hitprobability between MG151/20 and hispano should be pretty even. The guns got adjusted to s specialy distance anyway. And the in most cases far outside wingmouted position should make long distance kills even more difficult(even with max convergence setting). In reality most convergence settings wasnt at around 200-300m for fun(smal MG´s even closer).
Why the MK108 with its poor rof and muzzvel have a so big hitprobability is the biggest miracle! The 109´s with MG151/20 should be much better while a dogfight, not so in AH(actually IL-2 have the same problem).
What shal i say, once i did like AH very much, now its getting pretty onesided(imho of course)!
Greetings, Knegel
