Author Topic: What happened to LW? (Read 21225 times)

storch · « **Reply #120 on:** November 25, 2005, 08:41:13 AM »

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Originally posted by Guppy35
Thought the NASM 190 is a 190F8 as well

ok the only original FW190F8, sorry for the confusion, my bad.

MANDO · « **Reply #121 on:** November 25, 2005, 08:50:43 AM »

TimRas, in the very same thread Pyro expressed his willing to redo ALL the 190 present series, not only A5.

"When I have talked to him, not much can be "simulated" to make the FW190 more realistic due to code restrictions."

LOL, he was jocking, right?

Crumpp · « **Reply #122 on:** November 25, 2005, 09:13:21 AM »

Nope, he was serious.

There was quite a list of things, many where minor.

Main thing was the operation of the engine, fuel system, and boost.

All the best,

Crumpp

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justin_g · « **Reply #123 on:** November 25, 2005, 09:30:32 AM »

AH Fw 190A-8 matches Focke-Wulf calculations(dated 25.10.44) - 564kph @ s/l, 652kph @ 5.5km.

MANDO · « **Reply #124 on:** November 25, 2005, 09:35:33 AM »

Justin, just a note, top speed is only one factor of these that determine the handling and performance of any plane. We may have a Spit with its correct top speed for any alt but handling like a 747 and rolling like a F104.

MANDO · « **Reply #125 on:** November 25, 2005, 09:35:33 AM »

posted twice, sorry

Mime · « **Reply #126 on:** November 25, 2005, 09:46:12 AM »

It is not neccessarily TOP SPEED that I am talking about. I am referring to something that has been brought up many times on this forum by people like Kweassa and others, and that is that the LW planes suffer from very harsh stall characteristics when approaching speeds below 200mph, where Allied planes seem to suffer from no such disturbances and fly smooth as silk. I have noticed the change in FM between the two planesets over time, and my first recollection of this change was when AH2 came out with a "new and improved flight model". They just handle like **** compared to the Allied planeset. And this was not alwasy the case. The Allied planes are today much easier to fly compared to the Axis. Why? I have no idea.

Wilbus · « **Reply #127 on:** November 25, 2005, 10:08:41 AM »

Agree Nath, tested the P51 D as late as last night and it was like turning on Easy mode compared to LW rides.

Don't know why it is like that, I doubt the german planes were that much worse then allied planes but who knows...

Crumpp · « **Reply #128 on:** November 25, 2005, 10:27:36 AM »

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AH Fw 190A-8 matches Focke-Wulf calculations(dated 25.10.44) - 564kph @ s/l, 652kph @ 5.5km.

The performance estimates are conservative. Actual flight tested performance is a little better.

It is more a manuverability issue. IMHO the elevator authority and rudder authority are off more than speed.

All the best,

Crumpp

Morpheus · « **Reply #129 on:** November 25, 2005, 11:03:59 AM »

The A8 now is like dog fighting in a CV.

The roll rate has also seemed to have been slowed down in the K4 and G14.

Lack of flaperons are also a problem. Unless im blind and just can't see them moving with the flaps.

wrag · « **Reply #130 on:** November 25, 2005, 11:08:16 AM »

Elevator authority on the 109s was supposedly pretty fair?

Seem to recall someone saying this was the case with the early 109s.

In AHI a 109 could be snap rolled and preformed it very well but soon as AHII came out NO WAY???? Tried it many times many different ways but NOPE!

I know cause I did it allot avoiding La7s and such. Was a combo of start a left turn then down vater roll right, and left then right rudder, or was that right then left rudder? Anyways used to surprise allot of LALA pilots with it. Admittedly was hard to do though

if you didn't do it just so you were toast!

Seem to recall DOWN was enhanced on purpose? Something to do with a big name pilot that helped with the developement insisting on it?

Rudder isn't too bad on the current 109s but could be better?

k has pretty fair rudder but thinkin the g2 through g14 suffer from a smaller rudder?

Hmmm uh oh now we gonna have RUDDER envy???

Krusty · « **Reply #131 on:** November 25, 2005, 12:04:15 PM »

wrag, I think your "snap turn" would just show up as stick stirring on the other pilot's end, and that's been greatly reduced as of late with the new smoothing code. So even if you could pull it off it probably wouldn't help.

gatt · « **Reply #132 on:** November 25, 2005, 02:32:04 PM »

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Originally posted by Wilbus
Agree Nath, tested the P51 D as late as last night and it was like turning on Easy mode compared to LW rides.

Don't know why it is like that, I doubt the german planes were that much worse then allied planes but who knows...

You know, sometimes someone tells us: gawd, stop whining, take a P-51 or a Spitfire and enjoy AH! (I dont talk about Niks and Lalas to avoid breaking many forum rules

)
The problem is: we feel like playing on easy mode with stall limiter and laser-guns (well, the last choiche is not selectable

). We dont feel any challenge to fly those planes.

Morpheus · « **Reply #133 on:** November 25, 2005, 02:45:33 PM »

Stall limiter does absolutely nothing to help you in a turn fight and everything to get you killed faster.

straffo · « **Reply #134 on:** November 25, 2005, 02:51:09 PM »

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Originally posted by gatt
You know, sometimes someone tells us: gawd, stop whining, take a P-51 or a Spitfire and enjoy AH! (I dont talk about Niks and Lalas to avoid breaking many forum rules )
The problem is: we feel like playing on easy mode with stall limiter and laser-guns (well, the last choiche is not selectable ). We dont feel any challenge to fly those planes.

//sarcasm on
so you should be pleased , the more they are "porked" the more it's a challenge !
//sarcasm off

Author Topic: What happened to LW? (Read 21225 times)

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