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Offline Larry

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« Reply #135 on: November 25, 2005, 02:55:26 PM »
I think HTC needs to fix the 190s before ToD comes out if they want people to play it. Whos ganna want to fly a messed up 190s into a group of P51s and B17s.
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« Reply #136 on: November 25, 2005, 03:23:17 PM »
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I think HTC needs to fix the 190s before ToD comes out if they want people to play it. Whos ganna want to fly a messed up 190s into a group of P51s and B17s.


Very good point.
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« Reply #137 on: November 25, 2005, 03:25:10 PM »
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Stall limiter does absolutely nothing to help you in a turn fight and everything to get you killed faster.


Morph, the worst thing is that it seems to be the stall limiter even if it is turned off :D ;)
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« Reply #138 on: November 25, 2005, 03:27:07 PM »
Of course you all being ex-LW pilots and having flown real 190/109s you'd know things were 'off'?

From another thread -
HT said NO fm's had been altered on any of the remodels. (of course this excludes the K4/G14)
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Offline Zwerg

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« Reply #139 on: November 25, 2005, 03:44:09 PM »
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[...]I dont believe that the two main LW rides, the 109 and 190 were as bad in the real world relative to their Allied counterparts as they are in AH or the Germans would have lost the war in 1942.
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Grits for sig. ;)
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Offline Morpheus

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« Reply #140 on: November 25, 2005, 04:00:39 PM »
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Of course you all being ex-LW pilots and having flown real 190/109s you'd know things were 'off'?

From another thread -
HT said NO fm's had been altered on any of the remodels. (of course this excludes the K4/G14)


wow, so when you piss and moan about your spitfires not being right or what other EroTfighter  you can come up with, its because you have countless hours of stick time in them? Please.

Pay attention Here please.

We're talking about for one, obvious mistakes. Such as combat flaps or lack there of. Or the lack of operational flaperons. Not to mention the obvious change in flight characteristics with each update making it feel even worse.

When the last update first came out I felt it right away. I didnt say anything because I knew I'd have countless numbers of people like you, Kevin, with smart ass, whiner remarks. But then I saw this thread, and talked to Nath even before he posted this thread about how the new LW's felt, and I knew it wasnt just me then.

If there was a problem or something was missing on a P51D that WAS there on all P51D's in real life, and its not in the game, it would be fixed ASAP.
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« Reply #141 on: November 25, 2005, 04:05:14 PM »
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Of course you all being ex-LW pilots and having flown real 190/109s you'd know things were 'off'?


Of course you all being ex-RAF/USAAF pilots and having flown real Spits/P51s you'd know things were 'right'?
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« Reply #142 on: November 25, 2005, 04:16:57 PM »
But none of you LW guys have posted any data in this thread ...
don't you ?

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Agree Nath, tested the P51 D as late as last night and it was like turning on Easy mode compared to LW rides.

Don't know why it is like that, I doubt the german planes were that much worse then allied planes but who knows...


It allways was , you remember the "Rumble" ?

"tight pink leather pants" Hristo vs "Allied running opportunist" Hangtime
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Offline 1K3

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« Reply #143 on: November 25, 2005, 04:30:44 PM »
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But none of you LW guys have posted any data in this thread ...
don't you ?

 

It allways was , you remember the "Rumble" ?

"tight pink leather pants" Hristo vs "Allied running opportunist" Hangtime



Straffo

People like crummp/MANDO/RAM ect got tired of posting datas and stuff proving that the *real* 190A-5 was a PIG compare to 190A-4 and A-8 for almost.... 6 years!!! (heh i've been reading old threads from  Aircraft and Vehicle lately )  :)
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« Reply #144 on: November 25, 2005, 04:37:06 PM »
And they were never convincing.
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Offline Wilbus

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« Reply #145 on: November 25, 2005, 04:37:56 PM »
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Originally posted by Kev367th
Of course you all being ex-LW pilots and having flown real 190/109s you'd know things were 'off'?

From another thread -
HT said NO fm's had been altered on any of the remodels. (of course this excludes the K4/G14)


Actually Kev that doesn't exlude the K4, it actually includes the K4 as it is teh EXACT same as the G10 (acording to HT).

It exludes the G14 since the G14 is a new plane, not a remodelled one.

This is no different from all the Sissyfire threads Kev.

But of course the Allied planes were that far greater then the German ones, afterall, the allies won the war.

We all know the winners write the history.

Blerch, this is a pretty dead subject, it has been a dead subject for years and will be a dead subject for years to come. For some reason I, and many more, will keep discussing it though.
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« Reply #146 on: November 25, 2005, 05:01:58 PM »
Ok.

the 109s as of right are OK (except the G-14, G-14 is not making its top speed of 416 mph at 16,400 feet).  

The 190s such as A8/F-8 and D-9 are ok (data wise) but from what i've read the 190A-5 is way off and all 190 FM is unchanged when AH2 released.
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« Reply #147 on: November 25, 2005, 05:14:49 PM »
Data wise OK yes as for speed and climb (pretty close atleast) but that is not what it is about really.

Dive acceleration, level acceleration, zoom climbs, stall characteristics...
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« Reply #148 on: November 25, 2005, 05:15:26 PM »
Main problem with 190A5 was its top military speed COMPARED with 190A8. 190A5 uses the very same military power setting as 190A8, it was lighter and less draggy (as only difference for AH was weight and MG mounts) but top military speed was the same as 190A8.

Now if we look into AH planes data, 190A5 is modeled with 8583 lbs and 190A8 with 9682 lbs. In no way they can have the same top speed for the same military poweroutput.
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« Reply #149 on: November 25, 2005, 05:27:15 PM »
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[...FW190] Data wise OK yes as for speed and climb (pretty close atleast) but that is not what it is about really.

Dive acceleration, level acceleration, zoom climbs, stall characteristics...


ah, no wonder there's been a *noise* going on right now;)  


by the way this issue should have been addressed and solved a year ago or two
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