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Offline Glasses

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« Reply #345 on: December 01, 2005, 07:48:48 PM »
Ok and what would these types of planes  use for AV gas 100 lo lead blue  or green or 110 octane?
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« Reply #346 on: December 01, 2005, 07:53:41 PM »
The problem with the engines is that they were so precisely engineered and made that nobody can now replicate the parts without MASSIVE costs and overhead (and if only for a small part -- it's not cost effective -- that is unless you plan on starting full production for the engines and there just isn't a market for that)
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« Reply #347 on: December 01, 2005, 08:35:16 PM »
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C3 and B4 have a unique smell.  Not at all like natural petroleum Avgas.  More like dirty coal.

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It should as is was made from coal.
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« Reply #348 on: December 01, 2005, 09:04:55 PM »
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The problem with the engines is that they were so precisely engineered and made that nobody can now replicate the parts without MASSIVE costs and overhead (and if only for a small part -- it's not cost effective -- that is unless you plan on starting full production for the engines and there just isn't a market for that)


Your not kidding.  We have had to search the world for some tiny parts.  For example, some of the ball bearing sizes are not in production anywhere in the world.  We found a scrap hovercraft that just happenend to have the correct size ball bearings to replace some of them.

We have also had to amass a collection of engines far out of proportion to what is normally needed to maintain one aircraft.  With this though comes as many questions as answers.

If you guys are not members, please join.  We can use the support.

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It should as is was made from coal.


See, you can impress me with your knowledge.:cool:

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Offline HoHun

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« Reply #349 on: December 02, 2005, 09:09:29 AM »
Hi Glasses,

>I wonder why can't anyone Auto Cad the friggin  blueprints of the 190D-9 and start  making um, acquire a license from BMW or something to make the engines, and if Jumo is out of bussiness why can't they make the engines like they used to back then, I'm sure there's a market for these types of aircraft, if they were mass produced(considering the prime buyers rich folks) these planes would fly off the shelf.

You can actually buy Fw 190A reproductions as kit aircraft from Flugwerk:

http://www.flugwerk.de/new/fw190/fw190.shtm

They use Chinese-made Ash-82 engines because no BMWs are available.

If you find your own Jumo 213, you can also have a Dora kit (they only built one of these so far).

Have fun! :-)

Henning (HoHun)
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Offline gatt

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« Reply #350 on: December 03, 2005, 04:02:00 AM »
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"Anybody fly WWIIOnline's FW190A4 out of curiosity?"

I have (Snip) .... of course it also flies against its contemporary rivals, and not LAs and Nikis, so that makes it to feel even more competitive.

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Exactly.
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« Reply #351 on: December 03, 2005, 07:36:41 AM »
FW-190's did fly against La's and Yaks.  They were competative.  So much in fact that the VVS operated a squadron of captured Dora's.

Oscar Boesch last kill was a Yak.  He collided with it in a close quarter dogfight.

According to the VVS testing of turning rates, at max cruising speeds, it took an La7 12 complete turns to outturn an FW-190A5.

Examine any JG which flew FW-190's in Russia, they not only tangled with VVS fighter, they managed to get a decent kill ratio.

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« Reply #352 on: December 03, 2005, 07:55:41 AM »
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According to the VVS testing of turning rates, at max cruising speeds, it took an La7 12 complete turns to outturn an FW-190A5.


Crumpp, what does it mean in terms of speed at 5K and 10K?
Thx.
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« Reply #353 on: December 03, 2005, 08:15:43 AM »
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Crumpp, what does it mean in terms of speed at 5K and 10K?


Roughly a 50kph speed difference between Daurleistung and Start un Notleistung.

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« Reply #354 on: December 03, 2005, 12:06:06 PM »
OKay so somebody that knows how to do this needs to test the turn rate of AH's LA7 then the turn rate of AH's 190a5, and compare the two. What's the math? How much faster must the 190a5 turn to require 12 turns to catch up?
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« Reply #355 on: December 03, 2005, 02:13:12 PM »
Flew LW aircraft some time ago in the CT, - 190 vs the La's.
Was a very good setup. The 190 was good for the job.
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« Reply #356 on: December 04, 2005, 08:58:13 AM »
In WW2OL the FW190 is A4 variant and it flies against Spit IX and P39 and P38.

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« Reply #357 on: December 04, 2005, 09:06:23 AM »
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Flew LW aircraft some time ago in the CT, - 190 vs the La's.


Feel free to fight an La 5 1 vs 1 co-altitude anytime.  I would be glad to meet you in the DA.  I will fly the La5.  

Last time I did that, it was the first time I ever spent the majority of a dogfight at idle or very reduced power to keep from over running the FW-190.

All the best,

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« Reply #358 on: December 04, 2005, 10:36:07 AM »
Let me know Crumpp when you see a chance for some flights. I'd rather wing you if you don't mind ;)
Been bloody busy lately so I haven't been doing anything than forums and the occational MA. Like NOW.
(Wife sleping, daughter sleeping, me on lookout, hehe)
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« Reply #359 on: December 05, 2005, 09:28:01 AM »
Speed vs flap deployment for 109E. These speed/flap deployment figures remained virtually unchanged for all 109 variants.

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