What to do with American Taliban John Walker?

[GRUNHERZ]

OK.....

You are the one who preaches "obvious bias", you demand that people be treated diffrently based on who or what group they are. I dont, I think all people are more or less the same, we all eat toejam sleep love our family and go about life. I see no reason why anyone should be treated diffrent just because they are black or gay or white or male or female or anything. And if I wanna criticize somebody well I should have the right to, becuse its based on what they do and how they behave and not on who they are.
If you qute me on this later dont just be selecteve here.

Its about how people behave! All I said or alluded to in this whole thing is that John Walker grew up in a left wing permissive environment and that I belive that led to the poor decisions he has made. Thats all. And yes my experience has been that most SF Bay Area gays are very very left wing.

Thats all! You can play your game and try to argue this by ridiculing me and threatening me with the standard old youre a racist this and that ploy, but most people these days are getting tired of this by-the book PC crowd hate blackmail tactic.

So go ahead I assume youll just ignore this response and see it through your own colred lenses as most PC whackos do. And yes thats what you are, a PC whacko who demands his "special" groups be treated with kid gloves. Ive had enough of PC trash ideas It has simply gone too far, its almosr Fascist/Communist in its practice and application today. Its Un-American.

[Wotan]

one thing about homosexuals.......

they define themselves by their sexual behavoir then cry foul when anyone judges them by it.

Seems to me they can't have it both ways........

or can they...........

<shudder> yuck..........

[GRUNHERZ]

Its irrelevant what gays do in sex, it really shouldnt matter its between two adults.

However what is relevant is how gays position themselves politically, on one hand they demand to be seen and treated as being no different while they and thier PC lap dogs demand special treatement and consideration when this special treatment is benefical.  This pisses me off, and its the same by the book PC tactic all the other "specials" swaer by.


Yes TahGut and trotski Im evil and sooooo un-cool.    

[Wotan]

legalistic interpretation of their acts.

well unfortunately the "legalistic interpretation" is all that matters. Not how you feel or what you think he did.

He's a fediddlein pos no doudt.

You would have to prove that he new al quaeda bombed the cole inorder to prove he knew they did it.

Theres been no conclusion as to whether it was al quaeda. There are simply suspects. The facts have yet to be established by a court.

You can call for blood all you want but we have laws based on "legalistic interpretation" not on some guy playing AH's opinion....

Also one other thing depending upon what type of court and what federal distric he is tried in you could very well be in the jury pool (assuming a host of things). By your statements you could be excluded from the jury. Now imagine the defense arguing that such a bias exist among potential jurists making it impossible for him to get a fair trial.

I doudt a judge would ever agree but its not unheard of.

anyway they will do to him what they can with what evidence they have.

[Wotan]

my point is gruen they where on their sleeve and pretty much dare you to say something and when someone does they use it as ammunition to promote that special treatment you speak of.

I could careless as well what they do to each other is there buisness but when you define who you are by the sexual acts you do they you open the door for all types of critism. Good or Bad. They just wont to hear any of the bad.

[Thrawn]

Originally posted by Wotan:
my point is gruen they where on their sleeve and pretty much dare you to say something and when someone does they use it as ammunition to promote that special treatment you speak of.

I surprised to see myself post this but, you're right.  I'm sure that a bunch of gay people I know would agree with you.  

But the point you seem to be missing is that they don't want SPECIAL treatment.  

They want the same treatment you and I get.  ie.  The right to marry.

The LAW defines them by their sexual acts.  Kinda missing the forest for the trees here.

[ 12-22-2001: Message edited by: Thrawn ]

[SirLoin]

I suggest another thread for this Grun if you wish to continue.

[Kieran]

Hey, I wouldn't/couldn't sit on the jury. I already know he's guilty.

[Wotan]

[GRUNHERZ]

cc SirLoin It was never meant to discuss my "bias" against gays and my supposed membership in the KKK, but the PC crowd jumped all over me.

Sorry for TahGuts and trotski's pathetic display of PC intollerance all, I apologize for them.

[Thrawn]

Oh okay, so if someone disagrees with your racist, biased, prejudiced opinions, they're "PC".  And that's a bad thing?  

[GRUNHERZ]

How am I racist?  Point out exactly where?
Do It, cmon lets see Thrawn.

[SirLoin]

I would remove that Confederate Flag from your nose art for starters Grunz,then go back to German issued flight shoes instead of those Doc Martens...Are you starting to feel persucuted on this thread her Grun?.."How does it feel?"

[Thrawn]

Originally posted by GRUNHERZ:
How am I racist?  Point out exactly where?
Do It, cmon lets see Thrawn.

Okay, you're not a racist...you're just acting like one.  I reiterate.  Most gays I know don't want to be treated special, they just want the same rights as you and me.

Why do you have a problem with that?

[ 12-22-2001: Message edited by: Thrawn ]

[SirLoin]

I'll do it Grun...Your response to my first post says it all.An important topic thread,I added to it,you hijacked it to promote your anti-gays views.