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Offline syncrII

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« on: December 15, 2005, 05:49:58 AM »
Moin

i want this for my JU



or this



im geting tired about using the il2 for ground attack lol.
i want my german konterpart.
If we get these option. the ju88 goes up to an alrownd talent from ground attack to buff hunting everythink is posible :-).
hope we get it some times.

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Offline frank3

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« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2005, 05:53:40 AM »
These versions were probably Rustsatz's (field modifications) I doubt they manufactured in factories, and if they were, it would probably be a limited edition.

P.S. note that your second picture is actually a Ju-88 nightfighter

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« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2005, 06:07:47 AM »
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These versions were probably Rustsatz's (field modifications) I doubt they manufactured in factories, and if they were, it would probably be a limited edition.

P.S. note that your second picture is actually a Ju-88 nightfighter


Moin

Sure it is a ruestsatz, i have diverent informatins about the use of the 7,5cm Pak. some saied the prototype workes well and thay started to manufactur it in series. and the other information says it doesnt work well.


About the nightfighter it is a p2.
It was a version used as nightfigter and dayfighter.
My information sais it was used in night and at the day jagt against the havy bomber strome. sure she wasnt used until the late war. but i hered about some attacks at the day light in the earlya war.

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« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2005, 07:37:26 AM »
But dang....it would be awesome to have a gun like that at your disposal :cool:

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« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2005, 10:34:56 AM »
How many 21cm rockets did Ju88 day fighters carry?

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« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2005, 10:58:22 AM »
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How many 21cm rockets did Ju88 day fighters carry?


Moin

Im sure thay tryed it because many interetenings things were testet in the war for exampel the me 163 armet with rockets (by Erprobungskomando 16 one kill is rekorded). But never get some informations about the 21mm rockets on the ju 88.

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« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2005, 05:38:46 PM »
I've read books by USAAF combat pilots that tell of escorted daylight rocket attacks by Ju88 pilots & was wondering how many 21cm rockets would by loaded on one of these planes

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« Reply #7 on: December 15, 2005, 07:13:54 PM »
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I've read books by USAAF combat pilots that tell of escorted daylight rocket attacks by Ju88 pilots & was wondering how many 21cm rockets would by loaded on one of these planes


wow, thats interestening. i will start a search about that. hope i will find something.

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« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2005, 09:17:05 PM »
Going by the way the 110G was armed, 2 per wing outside the engines. The Me410 had a similar setup too, and I would think it was a common rutsatz.

So 4 total.

Forget the late-war P and S series! Let's have a solid-nose C series! That were the first fighter variant with a solid nose!

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« Reply #9 on: December 16, 2005, 03:18:20 AM »
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Forget the late-war P and S series! Let's have a solid-nose C series! That were the first fighter variant with a solid nose!


Im not sure if you could say it was a fighter...because obviously, the Ju-88 wasn't manoeuvrable enough to compete with fighters.

But night-fighter would be more appropriate though (although IMO that it should be a night 'attacker' instead)

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« Reply #10 on: December 16, 2005, 04:12:46 AM »
I would be satisfied if we even got the single MG FF which was standard nose armament for A4 variant. IRL It could be either fixed of the bomber could aim it.

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« Reply #11 on: December 16, 2005, 10:18:07 AM »
No, I don't think an MG/FF was standard on the A-4 series. You might want to double check that.

Frank: The Ju88 even as a bomber was claimed to have been a very aerobatic airplane. It was probably better than the 110G, and for sure a more stable platform for night fighting.

The solid-nose C had (going from memory here) 3x 7mms and 3x 20mms all firing forward.

It's a HUGE monster, but I'd take it buff hunting any day!! :P

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« Reply #12 on: December 16, 2005, 11:11:57 AM »
A question: What do we do with non-manouverable night fighter in this game when the night does not exist in MA.

EDIT: And the Icons prevent using the non-existant night as an advantage.

Please dont answer that it would be a great addition for CT or SEA setups, because there is a bunch of aircraft that are non existant in AH that would be a great addition (and should have earned their place in AH anyway) to CT and SEA setups. Like Heinkel 111,  I-16, Yak-1 (that were produced in thousands), Fiat G.50, Brewster etc.

IMHO I dont think we need annother version of the same old types we have already.  I mean like 7 different versions of spitfire and were missing historically crucial planes like mentioned above, whats the point in that??

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« Reply #13 on: December 16, 2005, 11:16:15 AM »
You say non manuverable, do you? Well I compared it to the 110G and that sees far more use than many of the "vital CT needed planes".

Yes yes I'm all for the He111 and planes that would round out the planeset (I've been calling for the Heinkel for ages), but this topic is about the Ju88 and variants. Coincidentally I'd like to see the Ju188 (not discussed in this topic so far).

So, going back to this topic, nobody was all screaming for the next plane AH does to be a Ju88 variant. We're simply discussing it.

Besides, if you think the Ju88a4 is anything like the Ju88C-x you'd be proven very wrong. Without the bomb load and with the heavy forward firepower it would be an awesome Zerstorer-type plane.

Like I said, huge as hell (making a big target) but still awesome.

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« Reply #14 on: December 16, 2005, 11:28:58 AM »
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A question: What do we do with non-manouverable night fighter in this game when the night does not exist in MA.


 


Actually the Ju-88A we have now is quite maneuverable for it's size. The only reasons they are rarely seen taking advantage of this is because they tend to fly in formations and because the gun in front is useless. Still, I've flown a few people into the ground that thought my '88 in divebomber mode was helpless. Add even those early-war MG/FF's to the nose and you'd have something fairly effective against lighter fighters. I'd fly it :aok
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