Author Topic: Perk the Spit 16!!!!!!! (Read 2145 times)

Dace · « **on:** January 05, 2006, 08:15:21 PM »

C'mon everyone, SCREAM!!!!!!!!!! with me. It is getting ridiculous, way worse than the La7. The bugger of it is, the poor Spit14 gets no love with its light perks because ...why the hell would u fly a spit14 when the 16 is way more uber and it doesnt cost.

Take perks from Spit14,..apply them to the spit16.

F4UDOA · « **Reply #1 on:** January 05, 2006, 08:23:25 PM »

Does anyone have performance specs on this thing??

Kev367th · « **Reply #2 on:** January 05, 2006, 08:49:36 PM »

Look at the specs for 1943 LF IX, only difference is the LF IX has .303's instead of 50cals.

Or in other words it performs identically to a clipped 1943 LF IXc, and a clipped 1944 LF IXe.

They all use the same airframe, same engine, only reason for designating it the XVI and not IX, was the engine (Merlin 266 same as Merlin 66) was manufactured in the U.S. and needed different tooling.

http://www.spitfireperformance.com/spitfire-IX.html

Has figures for non-clipped LF IX, look for the Merlin 66 @ 18lbs ones.

Interesting is near the bottom, what a Merlin 66 based spit at 25lbs boost could do

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Unperk the XIV it's all I'll fly, it's way far more of a beast with its 2000HP+ Griffon motor.

Dace - You do realise the XVI is the same as an LF IX (see above)? And not some wierd late war Griffon engined spit.

hubsonfire · « **Reply #3 on:** January 05, 2006, 10:05:23 PM »

Regardless of date, or spreadsheet performance, the 16 is ridiculously overmodelled, and is far more dangerous in the MA than any other plane. It's ruining the game.

Dace · « **Reply #4 on:** January 05, 2006, 10:17:47 PM »

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Originally posted by hubsonfire
Regardless of date, or spreadsheet performance, the 16 is ridiculously overmodelled, and is far more dangerous in the MA than any other plane. It's ruining the game.

EXCATLY

Kev367th · « **Reply #5 on:** January 05, 2006, 10:49:08 PM »

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Originally posted by Dace
EXCATLY

Figures, guess what plane has killed Dace more than any other?

Whats up? Is it ruining your K/D ratio?

Sorry Dace uncalled for, my apologies.

Krusty · « **Reply #6 on:** January 05, 2006, 10:49:51 PM »

Guess which plane has killed more of EVERYONE in the entire game than any other plane?

Kev367th · « **Reply #7 on:** January 05, 2006, 10:51:29 PM »

LoL - guess which plane has been shot down more than any other ;p

hubsonfire -
Overmodelled? - WHERE.
The ONLY discrepency found was that it was suggested it was a few mph too fast on the deck.
But that was comparing it to figures for a non-clipped IX.
All clipped Spits were faster at low alts (but slower high alts) than their respective non-clipped stablemates.

At least show some data to back up your overmodelled claim.

Dace -
I'll go along with unperk the XIV, perk the XVI.
Whats gonna happen the very next tour when you have 2000HP Griffon XIV's running rampant in the MA?
You'll be back asking for it to be re-perked.
I suggest you look at the performance of the XIV.
Theres also NO reason the XIV couldn't be clipped either.

Basically as it stands if you meet a XIV hi-alt once he gets on your tail you can dive for the low alt furball, reasonably confident he won't follow you down.
Remove the perk cost your unshackling a beast.

Squire · « **Reply #8 on:** January 05, 2006, 11:00:28 PM »

Perk needs its own forum on the AH BBS.

hubsonfire · « **Reply #9 on:** January 06, 2006, 12:04:04 AM »

It is the apex predator of AH. How you plan to perpetually deny that using actual data from the war defies my comprehension. AH isn't WW2. The standard engagement of WW2 is nothing like the standard furball of AH.
The 16 is, while not the best in every category, the best compromise of each category.

There is no better plane for AH than the 16. It must be perked.

Krusty · « **Reply #10 on:** January 06, 2006, 12:08:26 AM »

The dive model in AH is porked big time. EVERY plane dives far better than it ought to, including spits. So basically a dive does nothing but keep you steady in the other guy's gunsights while he matches you move for move. If he's 600 off yer butt, diving won't help because he'll still be 600 off yer butt, shooting you down.

Kweassa · « **Reply #11 on:** January 06, 2006, 12:43:18 AM »

Not unless other superior performing planes are perked with it. If it's a calling to perk the Spit16 only, and leave every other plane in the MA as it is, then I will never support something like that.

hubsonfire · « **Reply #12 on:** January 06, 2006, 01:24:25 AM »

43,991 kills last camp. What more do you want? Perk the damned thing, bring some balance back to the MA.

Morpheus · « **Reply #13 on:** January 06, 2006, 01:32:53 AM »

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Originally posted by hubsonfire
43,991 kills last camp. What more do you want? Perk the damned thing, bring some balance back to the MA.

i agree.

Kev367th · « **Reply #14 on:** January 06, 2006, 05:38:31 AM »

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Originally posted by hubsonfire
43,991 kills last camp. What more do you want? Perk the damned thing, bring some balance back to the MA.

And 38519 deaths with a K/D of 1.14

HARDLY the apex predator you describe.

Now if it had a K/D of 2 or more, I would probably agree.

Looking back at the CHog - When it was free it still maintainted an over 2.0 K/D ratio, I would say if the XVI ever hits the same it should probably get perked also.
Until then, LEAVE IT ALONE.