This game is not user friendly

[USHilDvl]

There are some very good points in some of these replies.

I especially like the direction of Roscoroo's thinking.

We could (the community) make a series of films covering all the various aspects of the game, complete with voiceover instructions and in-game visuals.  No small amount of work, mind, but certainly do-able.  Even easier if the thing is done in chapters, by diverse people.

The collected library could then be hosted/posted by HTC on the main website (that would be their contribution, since the HTC resoures are stretched so tight).

Might even be more useful to a noob than text would?

I gotta try editing films, and see if this'll work.

[reeb]

There are films on the main page under support::films  that show basic manuvers like the immel split s barrel roll ect ect they helped me when i started

[SkevJ]

Originally posted by TequilaChaser
well geez, Kweassa, the guy said he has been here since 2003? damn how long did it take you to learn something? more than 2 years?

if it is not a troll, it sure looks like one, and if it is not a troll, the guy needs to stop throwing out excuses as to why he got his spitfire outflown by a P47N, it is because he never took the time in the last 2 1/2 to 3 years to figure out the capabilities and weaknesses of his plane verses his opponents plane, for someone who has known or flown Aces High for more than a year this is not hard to do if a person puts forth an effort to immerse himself/herself into learning the freaking game..........and learning about all the different planes, why do you make your speed test and turn comparison data? just to be doing it? NO, you make stuff like this and like others do to help the community........

as for slamming HTC< I am not sticking up for HTC< but they have tried in the past and are trying now to put out stuff to make it more easier for the new comers,  now think about that, then think about all the damn wishlist request people ask for, think about all the bugs that they are quick to fix, think about all the *******s in the game that say "hit alt-F4" or "the TA is -------> that way noob"

bull**** remarks because the majority of the people playing the game rather ridicule the newcomers and slap them around than teach them a thing or 2 or offer help to them.

so go on being the "banana" who knows all and what is best, I personally have appreciated your efforts and articles and data you have provided for the community, but then again , I have never appreciated the "none replys" from questions I have asked you about when I ask how do you test to come up with the data you post on these boards. out of all the past 4 or 5 years , everytime I asked a question regarding something you posted or asked how you came up with it, you ignored my questions........

all one has to do is ask a Trainer, or ask the few that offer up help , and then fly each plane, do al little homework and study what each planes capabilities and weaknesses are for each aircraft. This crap has been discussed about planes from day 1, either you want to know and learn all you can or you want to be a whiney lil wet behind the ears greenhorn lemming that just wants to sit and throw out complaints saying , hey that's not fair!" "hey that isn't right, you are cheating" etc etc..........because they to freaking lazy to type a few words in the damn search engine and dig for info..........

all these puter nerds know what Google is, well Aces High has a search engine its ownself to search for some things that are not blatantly pushed in your face, hence the HELP button on the main menu/clipboard when one clicks the icon to log on to Aces High.......

First of all you need to calm the hell down and second of all yeah I've been a member since 2003 but that doesnt mean I've been playing all this time. I've only played a total of 3 months between then and now so I'm still a newbie to this game plus with the changes that have been made it makes it very difficult to keep up. First I installed AH1, then later I found they made an upgrade to 2, then this. I havent been keeping up with what's going on so get your facts straight before you start to typing with those chubby fingers of yours. BTW how do you nerds say it??? Pawned? or something like that?

[-sudz-]

Combat Tour, as a part of it's gameplay, will have a cadet go through basic training before he can sign up for actual missions.  For instance, touch-and-gos and basic target practice.

Once this is done we plan to port a portion over to AH2 as a simple, start-up walkthrough.  Just enough to know which buttons to push and where all the controls are - but nothing nearly so detailed as air tactics for specific planes.  For that, we thankfully rely on our trainers.

[Hades55]

To be just a newbee  here you Have to learn.....
Your plane
Enemies plane
Fighter tactics
Boom and Zoom
Turn & Burn
Energy Fighting
Your guns
The Zen of Dogfighting

IF you want to avoid all these, just grub a SpitUfo from the last Starwars  and go to the arena.
If again after 1-2 weeks you cant kill anything, you just SUCK.
Go play doom.

[SlapShot]

I've only played a total of 3 months between then and now so I'm still a newbie to this game

Well then that explains how a P-47N outturned your Spit. You also have to take in consideration ... who was flying the Jug ... not just the machine.

Also, do you have "Stall Limiter" turned on ?

[DoKGonZo]

The online help off the HTC home page isn't all that bad as a game manual. And were this a standalone game it'd probably suffice. But it doesn't come close to preparing a newbie for what he'll see in the MA. Even simple stuff like:

... How much fuel to load (incl. use of drop tanks) ...
... How much ammo to load (mainly P47's and P38's here) ...
... When and how to use flaps ...
... Convergence settings and application ...

... can have a huge impact on a player's success in the air. Its stuff we don't even think about anymore. And it varies from plane to plane.

[Mugzeee]

Originally posted by NoBaddy
It is really very simple. All the information is available. It is simply a matter of RTFM!!![/u]
 

Originally posted by Schatzi
The guy figured out where the game can be downloaded and installed.
The guy figured out where the BBS is, how to get himself an account and how to post a rant.

He can figure out where the help file can be found.


BTW, on the startup screen, theres a "HELP" button that sends you directly to HTC help file on homepage.

Originally posted by Dead Man Flying
I've seen a lot of "e-mail this" and "go to this webpage" that.  Seriously, put yourself in the shoes of a person trying out this game for the first time.  It's not somebody who's a flight sim nut, not somebody who has been playing games since Zork or Adventure, and not somebody who knows anything about this game other than seeing it advertised on the Military Channel.

Todd/Leviathn

Exactly DMF. Some of use doesn’t understand what you are trying to propose.
Correct me if I am wrong. But I think you proposing an IN-game style interactive tutorial. Kind of a Point and click what does this do. Yes?
With this style of tutorial you will have the newest of the new enjoying the game right from the get go. At least the frustration of getting shot down will not be compounded by the forest of info found in multiple websites and or pages required to understand how to use the game interface.
I know…I know…America has forgotten how to read and or don’t want to take time out to do it. But the fact is. Much of the gaming competition has spoiled us by making the game interface learning experience an In-game experience.
I think it would be an excellent addition to the game.

[Schatzi]

Originally posted by DoKGonZo
The online help off the HTC home page isn't all that bad as a game manual. And were this a standalone game it'd probably suffice. But it doesn't come close to preparing a newbie for what he'll see in the MA. Even simple stuff like:

... How much fuel to load (incl. use of drop tanks) ...
... How much ammo to load (mainly P47's and P38's here) ...
... When and how to use flaps ...
... Convergence settings and application ...

... can have a huge impact on a player's success in the air. Its stuff we don't even think about anymore. And it varies from plane to plane.

True. Learn something new in AH every day. Still holds true for me after over a year in this game (and great trainers/squaddies that constantly fed my enquiring mind). But i dont think that could be stuff covered in a tutorial.

[Westy]

"Its just frustrating to me that a P47 can outturn my spit like that."


  Something tells me if you are so completely unaware of how that could happen then you'd be outmanevuered by a parked T-34 too.

  In real life pilots got assigned to fighters, bombers and/or cargo types on the basis of thier skill and abilities.  BUT!   In the game/simulation Aces High anyone can miraculously buy thier fighter-pilot wings for the measely sum of  just $14.95/month -  skill or ability however is NOT included with the software..

[DoKGonZo]

Originally posted by Schatzi
True. Learn something new in AH every day. Still holds true for me after over a year in this game (and great trainers/squaddies that constantly fed my enquiring mind). But i dont think that could be stuff covered in a tutorial.

Well, in a way it could. It'd be kind of like a balloon-help deal ... like a "Pro Tip" which explained what the typical fuel load or ammo load-outs were in the MA for the plane the user had selected. Maybe not in a tutorial, but integrated into the game itself in the hangar when in "newbee seal mode."

Or like when they selected bombs or rockets, a balloon help could show it's icon which told them that there's a ez-mode bomb site available offline to practice with (I didn't find out about this feature until this year ... duh). Ditto for the LC sight offline for gunney practice.

A lot could be done without really adding much weight to the actual game executable.

[TequilaChaser]

Originally posted by SkevJ
First of all you need to calm the hell down

ok Lemming, I did not address my reply to you, but since you want to quote me, please read below the thread you quoted of me and see where I apologize for coming off being rude and flustered, second take your own advice in calming down instead of coming on the boards flaming away about why you are unable to beat a P47N with your spit fire, in the amount of time you took to start this thread and reply to it, you could have spent less time reading up about both plane types and realize 1st hand yourself why you allowed your 6 to get waxed...........to add, a certian plane type can only do certian things, but only if the pilot pushing the plane can make it do them, hence quit complaining and start training....


and second of all yeah I've been a member since 2003 but that doesnt mean I've been playing all this time. I've only played a total of 3 months between then and now so I'm still a newbie to this game plus with the changes that have been made it makes it very difficult to keep up.

First I installed AH1, then later I found they made an upgrade to 2, then this.

everytime HTC comes out with a new patch, they include a readme file that explains every change that has taken place,  and seeing how you are a member of this board, I find it very hard to believe that you have not kept up on the goings on about AH1 and now AH2 and all the changes, this doesn't wash, seems like another excuse....

 I havent been keeping up with what's going on so get your facts straight before you start to typing with those chubby fingers of yours.
wow, you know me real well, I am not fat, I do not have chubby fingers, and I am no internet tough guy, I am as I have always been, here to help you, but why should I along with anyone else have to sit and listen to someone complain, when that someone thinks if he flys a magical spit he can defeat all...... seems instead of blasting away at this game, you should be learning it and keepng up or reading up on the changes.........but remember, I did not address you, I was talking to Kweassa, and a thread or so later I apologized for my quick rude response............ you are the one who started the thread, you then are the same lemming that quoted me then attacked me, and now you are still throwing up excuses why you got your but waxed by a suposedly inferior plane, being as you was in the uber dweebfire ride.......


 BTW how do you nerds say it??? Pawned? or something like that?

if anyone has been pawned it is you my dear Lemming,  nuff said.........

but remember, even though you prob never will now, seeings how you prob got a mental picture of me being some rude arse person,  just remember I am always willing to help anyone I can in any aspect of the game they may be finding difficulty to overcome, including you SkevJ/Revor  or what ever name you might be using now.......

[paulieb]

A RR arena? I find the concept most INtriguing.

[pluck]

flaps, speed, and inticipation....that's how you out turn someone. though for how long is another question:D oh and flat turn usually bad.

[MINNOW]

I can understand the frustration for Newbies in the beginning. But for me, I was lucky enough to find a couple guys that had been around and they taught (Still teach me, Jam, USMCNav & Slammer) all the stuff that isnt easily explained. Plus being introduced into a squad was a major step for me since I was horrible at 1st. The Bops have a ton of guys that helped me get better and picked up new things almost every day.

I know it blows to play a game that is so technical and it seems like your all alone in a giant fish bowl.  Asking questions on Country channel or flying with guys that are willing to spend time to help you is the 1st place to start. Crying and whining isnt......

I know there are some new guys with the Bishops that made their own squad and they all fly together.  Might be a good thing to do so newbies all fly and learn the game with other newbies and get training. Would make sense to me.


AHers!