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Offline ChickenHawk

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« Reply #210 on: January 18, 2006, 03:22:19 PM »
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Untill then I think the only rights and wrongs in life are what each person feels comfortable with.


And that is exactly why there is so much crime these days.  Criminals feel that when it comes to committing a crime that well, they feel comfortable with it.
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« Reply #211 on: January 18, 2006, 04:13:45 PM »
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Sex outside of marriage was the first step in Seagoons slippery slope theory.


IMHO you STILL have what was said/typed versus what you THINK was said/typed a little off.....................
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It's been said we have three brains, one cobbled on top of the next. The stem is first, the reptilian brain; then the mammalian cerebellum; finally the over developed cerebral cortex.  They don't work together in awfully good harmony - hence ax murders, mobs, and socialism.

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« Reply #212 on: January 18, 2006, 04:45:27 PM »
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Hi MT,

 adultery and fornication, but also pedophilia, homosexuality, and incest,

- SEAGOON


Just because I cut the rest doesn't mean I didn't read it.

You know Seagoon, my best friend in the world is a born again Christian. I disagre with him also, but I always tell him the same thing.  I am envious of his passion.

The above line struck me more than any other in your post (I think someone must have told you "why say someing in 20 words when you can use 400").

Those 5 things you listed are the crux of the problem. Homosexuality cannot ever be recognized by the Church as a biological issue because it would basically show God as a mean spirited imp who plays on the emotions of people. We can't have a God who wires a brain to love the same sex then calls it a sin... can we? So what does the Church do? It calls it an abomination and compares it to the rape of children and animals and so on... I find it sad really that people are cast aside by the Church due to an issue that is "God Given".
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« Reply #213 on: January 18, 2006, 05:36:55 PM »
So MT you're saying that homosexuality is just a "brain wiring" thing that we should all accept as normal, right?

So what's your veiw of pedophilia? Is that a "brain wiring" thing too? If not, why not?
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« Reply #214 on: January 18, 2006, 05:39:00 PM »
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So MT you're saying that homosexuality is just a "brain wiring" thing that we should all accept as normal, right?

So what's your veiw of pedophilia? Is that a "brain wiring" thing too? If not, why not?
exactly! there are shrinks that say rapists are forever going to be like that, like "hard wired" too... if you disagree MT why?
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« Reply #215 on: January 18, 2006, 05:39:50 PM »
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So what's your veiw of pedophilia? Is that a "brain wiring" thing too? If not, why not?


AGE OF CONSENT
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« Reply #216 on: January 18, 2006, 05:50:09 PM »
The pedohiliac has to be of the age of consent? Or the target of pedophila has to be of the age of consent?

What of the brain wiring of the pedophiliac that has a "thing" for prepubertal children under the age of consent?

Is the pedophiliacs brain wiring as "normal" as that of a "normal homosexual"? If not, why not?
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« Reply #217 on: January 18, 2006, 05:50:10 PM »
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Originally posted by Sandman
AGE OF CONSENT


MT wasn't talking about laws, he was trying to make a point about religion.

"Homosexuality (poligomy/incest/rape/pedifilia/...etc) cannot ever be recognized by the Church as a biological issue because it would basically show God as a mean spirited imp who plays on the emotions of people. We can't have a God who wires a brain to love the same sex then calls it a sin... can we? So what does the Church do? It calls it an abomination and compares it to the rape of children and animals and so on... I find it sad really that people are cast aside by the Church due to an issue that is "God Given"

MT's point doesn't wash.
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« Reply #218 on: January 18, 2006, 05:58:42 PM »
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AGE OF CONSENT


Was put in place, by people, for several specific reasons.  So here we go, anyone care to elaborate on those reason?  

Our current age of consent is not exactly Biblical either.  IIRC Biblical is 12 years old????  Of course that didn't envolve "just sex" but was the earliest age possible for marriage with parental agreement/consent IIRC.

So what is your point Sandman?

NOTE: there are orgainizations that APPEAR to exist for the purpose, and only the purpose, of changing the age of consent downwards.
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« Reply #219 on: January 18, 2006, 05:59:14 PM »
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The pedohiliac has to be of the age of consent? Or the target of pedophila has to be of the age of consent?

What of the brain wiring of the pedophiliac that has a "thing" for prepubertal children under the age of consent?

Is the pedophiliacs brain wiring as "normal" as that of a "normal homosexual"? If not, why not?


It's a strawman. A pedophiliac is a threat to others. It doesn't matter if it's hard wired or not.
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« Reply #220 on: January 18, 2006, 06:01:32 PM »
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Was put in place, by people, for several specific reasons.  So here we go, anyone care to elaborate on those reason?  


To protect young people from old people. ;)
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« Reply #221 on: January 18, 2006, 06:01:51 PM »
So a pedophiliac's brain wiring is "normal" as long as he doesn't harm others? Doesn't act upon it? Or are you talking potential harm?

Because there is most certainly potential harm to others in the other things Seagoon mentioned.
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« Reply #222 on: January 18, 2006, 06:08:24 PM »
All You Need Is Love
(Lennon/McCartney)


Love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love.
There's nothing you can do that can't be done.
Nothing you can sing that can't be sung.
Nothing you can say but you can learn how to play the game
It's easy.
There's nothing you can make that can't be made.
No one you can save that can't be saved.
Nothing you can do but you can learn how to be in time
It's easy.
All you need is love, all you need is love,
All you need is love, love, love is all you need.
Love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love.
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All you need is love, love, love is all you need.
There's nothing you can know that isn't known.
Nothing you can see that isn't shown.
Nowhere you can be that isn't where you're meant to be.
It's easy.
All you need is love, all you need is love,
All you need is love, love, love is all you need.
All you need is love (all together now)
All you need is love (everybody)
All you need is love, love, love is all you need.
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« Reply #223 on: January 18, 2006, 06:27:11 PM »
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To protect young people from old people. ;)


Pretty much.  It is, or perhaps may soon be WAS, a system set up by the people that proceeded us.  Although your answer SEEMS to avoid the issues of whats and whys.  Still it's probably good enough, as it is in essence, accurate.

These people looked at the past.  You know, that thing called history that many ignore because they find it ?????.  At things that happened recently as well as long ago.  Thought for a time upon these things and then they implemented a system to correct what they saw as error.  A system they felt protected the young and inexpieranced from possible harm.   It is JUST possible that these people actually CARED about the generations that they knew would follow.

Interestingly it isn't Federal Law that decides the age of consent but State law that decides.  The way things appear to be going this may, in time, also become a Federal issue.

Different States have set different ages.  So age of consent depends on where you are.

In Mexico IIRC a girls 15 birthday is rather special.  She is given a party that is different then all those that proceeded it.  It is considered and announcement to the world IIRC.  I'm not sure if this practice is still going on but it was going on as late as 1996 in some areas IIRC.
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It's been said we have three brains, one cobbled on top of the next. The stem is first, the reptilian brain; then the mammalian cerebellum; finally the over developed cerebral cortex.  They don't work together in awfully good harmony - hence ax murders, mobs, and socialism.

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« Reply #224 on: January 18, 2006, 06:31:15 PM »
And here I thought conservative were all about common sense. I'm pretty sure Toad can figure out the big difference between homosexuality and pedophilia.

And Nuke, try to actually make a point when you post. Even adding words to my post and changing the meaning came up pretty empty dude.
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