Author Topic: Strategic bombing? (Read 3394 times)

Mugzeee · « **Reply #15 on:** January 24, 2006, 09:23:07 PM »

ummm....guys... I KNOW HOW TO CHECK STRATS! LOL
no..seriuosly i meant to say. I had heard many many times that the Strategic system in the MA doesnt work properly as designed. Like broken.
But now i think i see that its just mear opinion as to whether its properly modled.

Tilt · « **Reply #16 on:** January 25, 2006, 03:58:25 AM »

Once you have porked front and secondary line troops and supplies.......go deep and pork the grunt training and cities.

Toad · « **Reply #17 on:** January 25, 2006, 09:04:14 AM »

We need much more indepth strateegery that will require every strateegereesta player to cooperate and hit a tiny portion of any particular map.

It should require lots of players to accomplish anything strateegeristically and it should take a long, long, long time to do it. Misshuns should be 12 hours long, counting takeoff and form up for instance. A successful stateegeristical misshun should award 7000 perks in all categories to each strateegereesta participating and the arena should stop for 3 mintues while the monitor screen is filled with beautiful fireworks and patriotic music while an announcer voice-overs how some chess-piece country has "won the war". Oh, yeah... grand titles should be awarded too. Grand Poobah's of the night should get their name in the MOTD or something.

After that, everything returns to normal so another major strateegeristical misshun can be planned and executed.

That way all the strateegereestas will be off in one corner bombing and strafing toolsheds and the normal people that play for air combat can enjoy the real game.

slimey_J · « **Reply #18 on:** January 25, 2006, 10:27:25 AM »

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Originally posted by Toad
We need much more indepth strateegery that will require every strateegereesta player to cooperate and hit a tiny portion of any particular map.

It should require lots of players to accomplish anything strateegeristically and it should take a long, long, long time to do it. Misshuns should be 12 hours long, counting takeoff and form up for instance. A successful stateegeristical misshun should award 7000 perks in all categories to each strateegereesta participating and the arena should stop for 3 mintues while the monitor screen is filled with beautiful fireworks and patriotic music while an announcer voice-overs how some chess-piece country has "won the war". Oh, yeah... grand titles should be awarded too. Grand Poobah's of the night should get their name in the MOTD or something.

After that, everything returns to normal so another major strateegeristical misshun can be planned and executed.

That way all the strateegereestas will be off in one corner bombing and strafing toolsheds and the normal people that play for air combat can enjoy the real game.

That's it? That's all you have to offer? And yet you still took the time to type all of that out?

Toad · « **Reply #19 on:** January 25, 2006, 10:46:39 AM »

Allow me to add that I "Thank Cod for TOD!"

I hope TOD or CT as it is now named, will be compellingly addictive to all strateegereestas. I hope that those crying out for Strateegery will spend 24/7 glued to their joysticks playing CT till death do they part from their 'puter.

May the search for rank, glory and ticker-tape "We won the WAR!" parades so consume them that they forsake the MA forever and ever.

Toad · « **Reply #20 on:** January 25, 2006, 10:53:34 AM »

"Amen".

Forgot that part.

In fact, I'm going to go sacrifice a bucket of KFC to JoBu right now!

Tilt · « **Reply #21 on:** January 25, 2006, 12:44:44 PM »

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Originally posted by Toad
Allow me to add that I "Thank Cod for TOD!"

I hope TOD or CT as it is now named, will be compellingly addictive to all strateegereestas.

I think CT will be for fitter pee-alots.........

Lye-El · « **Reply #22 on:** January 25, 2006, 01:31:23 PM »

Boy the air quake guys sure get upset if somebody, in this case a new guy, asks about doing something in the game besides being a easy target for them. Must interfere with getting their name in lights. Sheese........

LYNX · « **Reply #23 on:** January 25, 2006, 01:41:59 PM »

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Originally posted by Toad
Allow me to add that I "Thank Cod for TOD!"

I hope TOD or CT as it is now named, will be compellingly addictive to all strateegereestas. I hope that those crying out for Strateegery will spend 24/7 glued to their joysticks playing CT till death do they part from their 'puter.

May the search for rank, glory and ticker-tape "We won the WAR!" parades so consume them that they forsake the MA forever and ever.

I really wish you could have graced us with more wisdom however your comments, opinions and vast knowlegde of the substance of this thread have been greatfully noted.

Having checked the score system I see your skills as a fighter pilot makes us feel almost unworthy of your input. A fighter pilot with a hit percent of 3.77% makes us sprey oops I mean prey for your fighter escort skills. Also your attack hit percent is impressive with 160%. You could clear up the tiny oil tank in town that we may miss. We could also rest assured that you wouldn't give up becuase out of 58 sorties you killed 56 guys, only dying 43 times with an impressive 13 landings.

Our strategic battles with sheds will live long as you have the enemy "Quaking" in their boots. When the bad guys learn of your impressive rank (2664) ACM and gunnery they'll leave us defencless tool sheaders alone to take on the mighty fighter pilot known as "Toad"

mars01 · « **Reply #24 on:** January 25, 2006, 03:13:48 PM »

LOLH Ly-el and Lynx, You guys a little sensative LOLHROTFF

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It's not like the old days when squads used to fly joint strikes against the city and several factories at once. I remember the Cites used to get leveled, followed shortly thereafter by AAA and Fuel factories. After that, once you killed stuff on a field, it could be down upwards of three hours.

Honestly, what kind of gameplay is the above. A field taken off the map for 3 hours... That is not game play that is game stagnation.

I say put an untouchable furball town somewhere on each map so it doesn't interfere with the "WAR" and you could bring back any kind of game stopping, stomp the opposition into submission, horde rolling juggernaught of zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzs all over the rest of the map.

I am in total agreeance with you Toad! I pray CT will draw all the WAR guys into it and the MA will go back to the early days of AH. Where the men were men and the toolshedders were still waitn for the toolsheds to be written. LOLH

Ohh BTW radishcat, take Toad to the DA some time and he'll show you how much score means. LOLHROTFF

LePaul · « **Reply #25 on:** January 25, 2006, 03:43:51 PM »

Since Aces High 2, I havent ever seen a field below 100% fuel. I think it can be brought down to 75%...but Im not sure.

What's been traded in tho is people porking ordinance in cannon birds, so on any given night, along the front...ordinance is usually gone for quite some time. In Aces High 1, the norm was to see fuels porked to 25%. While it affected most fighters, bombers can go quite far on 25% and since ordinance was up, they could up.

I'm sooo hoping strat gets sorted out sometime.

LYNX · « **Reply #26 on:** January 25, 2006, 07:16:24 PM »

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Originally posted by mars01
LOLH Ly-el and Lynx, You guys a little sensative LOLHROTFF

Honestly, what kind of gameplay is the above. A field taken off the map for 3 hours... That is not game play that is game stagnation.

I say put an untouchable furball town somewhere on each map so it doesn't interfere with the "WAR" and you could bring back any kind of game stopping, stomp the opposition into submission, horde rolling juggernaught of zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzs all over the rest of the map.

I am in total agreeance with you Toad! I pray CT will draw all the WAR guys into it and the MA will go back to the early days of AH. Where the men were men and the toolshedders were still waitn for the toolsheds to be written. LOLH

Ohh BTW radishcat, take Toad to the DA some time and he'll show you how much score means. LOLHROTFF

I don't mean to hi-jack SLIMEY-J thread but ...really!

Slimey-J asked a question and he was getting proper responses. Your good bud comes in with Jack-****. Furballer toolsheder blah blah lame old same old.

Is the above a classic case of you not reading all the replies to this thread? Also, I don't like the idea of the miss quote. You have my name to somone elses quote. A quote you clearly have missunderstud in the first instance.

This thread has nothing to with rank. When you read it you'll see it's about todays strat system ... how?...why? ....how long? No one has mentioned furabllers, toolsheders except you and your good bud. It's a free speach forum but if your good bud wants to make such comments it would be honourable to be at least qualified in his field. His statistics prove otherwise. A fighter hit percent of 3.77. Whats that about? Missing, spreying or secret toolsheding in his favoured ride the Lgay7. Or is it one of those guys that holds the trigger open spinning to his death in a decapitated plain with a vain hope he may hit something.

You make a comment I agree with which is the fighter town idea. We have one such map with this on it but it keeps getting reset. It seems you and your good buds don't protect your flank.

Sensativity... umm pot kettle black me ol chocky bar:rofl

Saxman · « **Reply #27 on:** January 26, 2006, 01:02:53 AM »

My fighter hit % is only around 4% because I strafe ground targets if there's nothing in the air to shoot at (it's about 50% in attack sorties which seperates out shots fired at air and ground targets).

Toad · « **Reply #28 on:** January 26, 2006, 01:23:05 AM »

Yeah, I strafed some towns. Nothing else to do in this game when some Toolshedder takes down the fighter hangars and ends the fight.

I admit I'm no good at score in this game. I just fly to have fun.

This game was at it's very peak of fun towards the end of the beta. After that continual "additions" were made to mollify the toolshed contingent and the fun meter slowly dropped in lock step.

Now you've got this soggy mess of a main where hordes run around flattening toolsheds and running with wet knickers from any potential fight.

You bet I fly the La-7. Whenever it becomes obvious that the runaway crowd is populating the arena, you need something to catch them. You'll find an awful lot of F4F and FM2 flights in my logbook though. Probably those more than anything else although I once flew the C205 an awful lot too. Problem is you just can't catch the runners in those... and there's so many that run from a fight even when they have the advantage in performance and alt.

Lastly... landing. Vastly overrated in my opinion. Fight till you run out of bullets or gas then either die or auger to get a new plane quickly. All that drilling around back and forth to fields is boring.

There's only one point in playing these games: to shoot at someone. The rest of it is dross.

The fight's the thing.

The fight's the ONLY thing.

I now return you to your regularly scheduled strat whining.

Flayed1 · « **Reply #29 on:** January 26, 2006, 02:14:45 AM »

The only one I see whining about strat is you Toad.... Everyone else seems to be simply discussing it or answering questions. You seem to be the only one bringing anything derogatory into this thread that has been up untill you came into it a good conversation about strat and the changes that have happened to it be they good or bad.

So please stop trying to make this into some sort of toolshedder VS furballer thread and let us answer the new guys question about how strat works.

Thank You.