Author Topic: A6M death! (Read 2200 times)

SlapShot · « **Reply #15 on:** January 31, 2006, 03:44:26 PM »

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Originally posted by storch
clear illustration of why the modelling is so messed up and in favor of all things allied.

Conspiracy Troll Alert !!!!

parin · « **Reply #16 on:** January 31, 2006, 07:57:32 PM »

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The only thing that causes a plane to explode in AH is when the pilot dies. He got the pilot.

If you kill the pilot the icon disapears and the plane flys in to the ground. Correct?

wonton · « **Reply #17 on:** January 31, 2006, 08:24:18 PM »

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Originally posted by parin
If you kill the pilot the icon disapears and the plane flys in to the ground. Correct?

I believe that the plane explodes at that point, you're thinking of a bailout if I'm correct.

Karnak · « **Reply #18 on:** January 31, 2006, 10:39:51 PM »

Wonton has it correct.

Pooh21 · « **Reply #19 on:** January 31, 2006, 11:00:24 PM »

usually I have to light those rice paper and bamboo crates up with cannon for a few secs and then the dang thing flies around on fire for a few minutes.

Saxman · « **Reply #20 on:** January 31, 2006, 11:25:25 PM »

Weird thing I've seen is putting a bunch of hits into a guy, watch him fly off, and blows up a second or two later. No fire, no other apparent damage. Net lag? Pilot wounded and taking a second or two to die (I had that happen once, where I died before I could land)?

I'm frequently a victim of the pingless insta-death. Then again, I've done it once or twice, two (had a Tiffie in a vertical looping fight where we kept going front-quarter, and I snapped off a half-second shot, thought I missed, and when I pulled up and looked back to track his position saw his plane flying apart).

Schatzi · « **Reply #21 on:** February 01, 2006, 03:37:29 AM »

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Originally posted by Karnak
The A6M pilot was an idiot to HO you. He should have just out amnuvered and killed you, something the A5M is well capable of doing to a Hurri.

Karnak, IMHO the Hurri is the closest to a match to the Zeke in AH you can get( talking fighters). Depending on who the Zeke driver was, bagrat in the Hurri is a hard nut to crack.

B@tfinkV · « **Reply #22 on:** February 01, 2006, 04:28:58 AM »

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Originally posted by Saxman
Weird thing I've seen is putting a bunch of hits into a guy, watch him fly off, and blows up a second or two later. No fire, no other apparent damage. Net lag? Pilot wounded and taking a second or two to die (I had that happen once, where I died before I could land)?

I'm frequently a victim of the pingless insta-death. Then again, I've done it once or twice, two (had a Tiffie in a vertical looping fight where we kept going front-quarter, and I snapped off a half-second shot, thought I missed, and when I pulled up and looked back to track his position saw his plane flying apart).

i put this down to lag.

Charge · « **Reply #23 on:** February 01, 2006, 04:32:38 AM »

"he put a hispano cannon round in him, far more powerful than german guns historically"

Heh heh. Yeah, sure. Source: BillyBoBs WW2 planes book?

-C+

Karnak · « **Reply #24 on:** February 01, 2006, 11:03:53 AM »

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Originally posted by Schatzi
Karnak, IMHO the Hurri is the closest to a match to the Zeke in AH you can get( talking fighters). Depending on who the Zeke driver was, bagrat in the Hurri is a hard nut to crack.

I know it is, but the A6M5b holds too many of the cards over the Hurri II. Just bleed the Hurri's E out and kill it. Just be careful not to get smacked by the quad Hispanos.

I actually fear a Hurri I more than a Hurri II when in the A6M5.

SlapShot · « **Reply #25 on:** February 01, 2006, 12:07:22 PM »

Equally skilled pilots in those planes ... the Zeke pwns the Hurr.

Once the Zeke gets it flaps out, nothing can turn and/or stall with it ('cept another Zeke).

Iceman24 · « **Reply #26 on:** February 01, 2006, 12:10:50 PM »

as long as there's no HO's I'm almost certain the zeke will win

RTR · « **Reply #27 on:** February 01, 2006, 02:30:38 PM »

Oh yeah, Ho's are the great equalizer. We don't need acm anymore. Just bigger guns. We should all HO.

If your opponent tries to HO you and you shoot him right in the spinner, You have just Ho'd your opponent.

Why are Ho's always the other guys fault? Just call a spade a spade.

Ho or Ho not. There is no in between.

RTR

Schatzi · « **Reply #28 on:** February 01, 2006, 03:09:48 PM »

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Originally posted by Karnak
I know it is, but the A6M5b holds too many of the cards over the Hurri II. Just bleed the Hurri's E out and kill it. Just be careful not to get smacked by the quad Hispanos.

I actually fear a Hurri I more than a Hurri II when in the A6M5.

Yeah, HMk1 a lot more nimble then the HMk2C. And those 303s can hurt very much at close range.
But any a6m has a definite engine power advantage over the HMk1. Just try to rope the Hurr into an inverted position.

Ive never flown the Zeke much (just fought it a lot). Is it lighter/has stronger engine then the HMk2C?

Slapshot, im not so sure about the turn. IIRC, sustained the Zeke only has a 1 sec adv over the HMk1. And the Hurr hangs on its prop well, just dont get inverted.

PS: Equal pilots, the a6m5 is managable for a hurr1, the a6m2 almost impossible to get (same turn, better guns and better eng).

Masherbrum · « **Reply #29 on:** February 01, 2006, 06:01:01 PM »

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Originally posted by Pooface
its not messed up. he put a hispano cannon round in him, far more powerful than german guns historically, into a weak part of a plane with no armour. nothing to do with over modelling, it was about luck. in real life, 20mm's did FAR more damage than they do in here. you saw the p38 cannon test right?? that was an old gun, and wouldn't be firing at proper power, yet it tore a steel cylinder to shreds. just imaging that hitting very thin aluminium skin, and going into one of the very vulnerable jap fuel tanks. its not over modelled at all

Cannon rounds frequently jammed in WWII, I'd love to see this brought to AH2. Would force people to be creative, limit the "spray n pray". But it won't.

Karaya