ENY should kick in sooner so motivation is there to balance sides

[FiLtH]

I think its too easy to get a high end plane.  I think their should be a points cap. Say the cap tops off at the cost of a 262. So you would never have more than 250 points at one time. Eventually most players would have to fly the "free" planes alot more. Make more of the mid range planes perked. Make it so the majority of the planes in here are early war planes..to slow down the fights. Maybe then smaller maps could last longer, and we could use more of the maps we never see.

[Hoarach]

If your one that when ENY kicks in cant fly their plane, learn to fly a plane with a high ENY.  Those that NEED to fly the dweebfire 16 and lgay7s, sure they will be pissed because thats the only plane they know how to fly.  Pick a plane that has a ENY above 10 and wont really need to worry about ENY.

Myself, I fly that crappy plane that we call the 38.  It has a ENY of 35 so never have to worry about ENY kicking in and have plenty of perks to spare if I was to pay 400 perks for a 262.

[Gatr]

Once upon a time in a MA... In a ...

Well the Rooks were the ones getting ganged all the time....
ALL THE TIME!!!!!!!!!!
We started something called TEAMWORK!!! RJO's and alike
Then we had the numbers most of the time...
The 81st played an important roll in this....
THen came ENY....  
THen Most of the 81st went to WWII online....
Bla bla bla...
HT had to do somthing I guess....
Gatr
81st

[KTM520guy]

Originally posted by richard_rd
I have been playing this game for two years now but for the past 4 months the inbalance in the sides has made it very frustrating.  Yes i am a Knight, as if from my post topic you could not tell!!!

For more then 16 hours of the day the knights are heavely out numbered, most of the time by ratios like the following and alot of times alot worse:

Knights 40 players
Rooks 60 players
Bishops 60 players

And to make it worse the way the gameplay evolves it only makes sense that the Rooks and bish would concentrate on the weaker numbers of the Knights so it makes the pblm alot worse.  

If the ENY would kick in alot sooner and alot harder then this would act as a motivational tool to try and keep the sides even because the people on the sides with the high numbers would get tired of flying the crappy planes.

The other morning about two weeks ago for a period of 4 hours the ratio's were as follows:

Knights 13 players
Rooks 38 players
Bish 32 players

Oh yeah that was alot of fun!!!!!!

Scuzzy and HiTech please consider putting something into the game to motivate people to balance the sides.  I know if the situation does not change soon I will be giving up the game.

PS:  And no i will not take the easy answer and just switch sides to the rook or bish because i would not do that to my Loyal knight team mates.

 And on that note all you knights (and you know who you are) who switch to the rooks and bish when we are heavely outnumbered because you want to keep your Ranks high; I which a wild bore with rabies tracks you down and eats your heart out you scumb bag traders!!!!

I don't think numbers like that have ever been seen. It's always been the bish on the short end of the stick. Even if the bish do manage a large numbers you have to consider a "suck factor" A bish horde is only as effective as a rook/nit horde half that size.

[Hoarach]

What you talking about?

Rooks have me I degrade the rook horde, you cant get any suckier then me.
Rooks forced to put up with my sucky talent and get torn apart by bish and knight hordes half are size.  

[richard_rd]

On the Weekends and Primetime during week nights the Knights are usually outnumbered, but only by less then 5-20% and there are usually 300+ players in the main arena so it is not that bad.

   The real problem is on weekdays non Prime Time (1AM to 6 PM), during these times the Knights are usually outnumbered  by 30-50% per side. and the total number of players in the arena is usually less the 150 total.  Under those conditions (heavely out numbered and low arena volume) it is almost imposible to be competative as a team, so many Knights gets frustrated and log off or switch sides.

   I think the ENY system should take total amount of players in the arena as a factor, and when the arena numbers are low, and a team is out manned by 30% or more per side, ENY should start to kick in.  The way the ENY seems to works now is when the arena numbers are low (less then 150) the ENY never seems to kick in untill the short sided team is outnumberd by 50% or more.  IMHO that is way to late!!!!!!

[KTM520guy]

But don't forget the bish suck factor. The bish are always outnumbered. Don't get me wrong, there are a lot of hot sticks on the bish side but not enough to sway the balance to the positive side of the scale. I have to admit though, I'm partly to blame because I suck. If you don't agree with me that I indeed do suck, I will switch to your country. Then we will see what happens then

hahahahahahahahahahahahahah *cough* *cough*hahahahahahaha.....

[Kev367th]

Think all it needs -
At the moment its possible to get from 0.1 up to 4.9 ENY limits which are pointless.
Just add 5 to the current ENY system.

So if its
0.1 = 5.1
up to
4.9 = 9.9

Then continue it all the way through
normal ENY = 7.8 : modded = 7.8+5 = 12.8

That way the current 0.1 - 4.9 pointless ENY 'limits' are eliminated.

Or slight variation -
Any ENY less 5, equals 5

So anything from 0.1 - 4.9 is actually counted as 5.
From 5.0 onwards leave it as it is now.
Basically-
If ENY <=4.9 then ENY =5 else calculate as normal.

[ALF]

The problem with the whole ENY thing is simple, because of it there is no motivation to capture bases or do anything more strategic than furball.  Success means you lower the number of enemy planes in the air, which means you limit your available planeset, so now we have a system whos direct effect isnt to balance the sides, but rather to remove all motivations, or rather punish those with motivations to 'win the war'.

One of the games strengths is the feeling of community, and the capturing of that human tendancy to latch on to something, no matter how arbitrary and call it your own.  Its why some of you root for the Steelers while others for the Seahawks...or whoever...you have a team that you root for, even though as the years go by not a single member of that team you began with is still there.  You still maintain a strong affinity for that team.

So after flying with Rooks, Nits or Bish for years, the ENY punishment system is supposed to do what again?  It does little to have players change sides...as seen by the thread starter, all it does is breed discontent.  

First the calls were 'we need something to balance the sides'

Now its 'it needs to be stronger'

You cannot PUSH someone to change allegiance, you can only breed distrust and anger by trying.   This game is wandering away from what made it great, and attempts to pacify the vocal minority will only hasten its fall into medeocracy.

[fartwinkle]

Originally posted by AutoPilot


Anyone who disagree's with the ENY has to be a newbie IMHO.

I have found only those who shout newbie tend to be the noobs them selves.
I have played and payed this game for 4 years yep im a noob:lol

[dedalos]

Originally posted by richard_rd

  The point is switch over to the Knights for a week and see how fun this game is anymore, it really sucks now,

I am a Knight and don't know what you are talking about

[DipStick]

Originally posted by viper215
my rank was a 13 and we were out ####ed by alot i dident switch sides

just ya know FYI

Proof that rank has nothing to do with skill spelling or grammer.

[FALCONWING]

i THINK THERE SHOULD BE WAYS TO EVEN OUT THE PLAYING FIELD.
Bish went thru this not long ago.  I agree with strengthening eny and also believe the NUMBER of bases a country owns should affect it as well.  Number of players don't always correspond to strength.

What we did richard was form a bish coalition that worked together eveyr night and turned things around.  It was great teamwork but i agree that that is not how i want to enjoy AH each night.  When the teams are balanced things are most fun IMHO.

Dont worry bro, things willeven out...my first thought for solving the problem would be to gangbang rooks by forming a secret treaty with the bish and see how many of these country jumping morons who are responding to your post would stay rook...lmao  

Note that the large majority of responders here are rooks...and most of them weren't rooks when the rooks didnt have numbers.  Face it score runners ARE good pilots...they join the side with most numbers because it allows the to do what they need to improve their score.   And furballers Are good pilots as well...they need space to get their furballs going...they wont be upping vulched bases or flying against a horde either.

Holy Sheep Batman here is a great idea!!! Instead of eny..make the country in truble have a kill and point multiplier!!  Each kill counts as 2-3x...then you would see a happy influx back to knits etc!!!!
BRILLIANT!!!!!!!!!

[Gatr]

Falcon  ... Great idea
Dale he may be on to somthing......
Gatr
81st

[Lye-El]

Originally posted by FALCONWING

Holy Sheep Batman here is a great idea!!! Instead of eny..make the country in truble have a kill and point multiplier!!  Each kill counts as 2-3x...then you would see a happy influx back to knits etc!!!!
BRILLIANT!!!!!!!!!

Hmmm.....Interesting thought. Carrot rather than stick. Points for a kill vary aircraft vs. aircraft anyway.