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« on: February 13, 2006, 02:02:45 AM »
Heinkel He.111


One of the best known and most widely used German bombers of World War II, the Heinkel He 111 was first displayed to the public on 10 January, 1936, ostensibly as a ten-passenger commercial airliner. However, it was a dual purpose design, also aimed at satisfying the newly organized Luftwaffe’s needs for a fast medium bomber.

 By mid-1935, the first He-111A bomber variants had entered production, powered by two BMW engines, but the low power of these engines resulted in the Luftwaffe’s refusal to accept them. Thus, ten He 111As were sold to the Chinese government, to help raise much needed hard currency for Germany.

Subsequent versions were engined with either Daimler-Benz DB 600 or Junkers Jumo 211 series liquid-cooled inverted V-12 engines. The He 111 saw its first combat with the Condor Legion in Spain in 1937, where they proved fast enough to evade most of the fighters trying to attack them. This, and other experiences, lead the Luftwaffe to believe it could operate fast medium bombers against any country, without having to provide them with fighter escorts.

This tactic worked during the Blitzkrieg, the lightening war into France, but failed miserably in the fall of 1940, during the Battle of Britain. The He 111P and H models were primarily used in the attacks on England, the H model going on to become the most important variant of the design produced.

The He 111H-6 was typical of the series, but its two or three gunners firing hand-operated light machine guns proved no match for the fast and maneuverable Spitfires and Hurricanes which rose to defend Britain. The Germans quickly learned that they had to provide fighter escorts, usually Bf 109s, for the bombers, but the short range of the fighters limited them to only about ten minutes endurance over Britain.

The Spanish firm CASA built 200 He 111H-16s under license from Heinkel, beginning in 1945, powering them with British Merlin engines. The CASA 2111s continued in service with the Spanish Air Force as transports until the late 1960s, and were used in the filming of the movie The Battle of Britain in 1967. The CAF He 111 is the only one regularly flying in the world today.

The Spanish Heinkel 111s

During World War II, Spain purchased the rights to manufacture the He 111H as CASA 2111s. However, the Spanish equipped their version with British Merlin engines, in place of the German Jumo 211s. Many were built as transports, without bombing equipment. They served into the 1960s with the Spanish Air Force and are the last flying examples of the de
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« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2006, 02:27:24 AM »
give up, HT dont care about this plane

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« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2006, 01:47:58 PM »
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give up, HT dont care about this plane


well then....















































HOW ABOUT THE B-111 INSTEAD?! :D ;)

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« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2006, 01:56:58 PM »
yellow RV 111 sounds better

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« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2006, 02:57:25 PM »
:lol
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« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2006, 03:14:35 PM »
btw when we get new plane last time?
It was Ki84 as i remember, variety of remodel planes i dont count
cuz p47, spits, 109's, 190's was upgrade. But as for brand new model?

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« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2006, 03:18:58 PM »
Ramzey, the p47N is new. The others were upgraded, but the 47N is new. The Spit16, Spit8, 109G-14 are also new.

While there are older versions being "upgraded", we have gotten many new planes along the way.

If you mean "when will we get something totally different?" Then the answer is: Not until after ToD (a.k.a. "CT" now) is done.

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« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2006, 03:19:00 PM »
last real update 11-1-2004 added ki84 , B24J, T34

im getting tired of liftings of existing planes

Krusty, that NOT realplaneset update, just liftings, 10nt version of same plane, downgrade this one, upgrade thats one, add som HP here, take  som HP there, add new skin.
I know they demand same amount of work as brand new models but i d like to have Do17 or PBY insted of another 109 with MW something


Come on!, for planeset for BOB im waiting since i join this game
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« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2006, 03:21:25 PM »
Well if you think the P47N is anything like the other P47s I dare you to fly it alone for tour. Fly it for everything. Then try doing the same stuff in the 47Ds.

If you don't think the Spit16 is new, then where have you been? 25% of every plane you meet in the MA now is the spit16. It's one of the most lethal planes in the set, and we didn't have anything (very) close to it before.

If you don't think the 109G-14 is new... well... okay so the G-14 just plain SUCKS, but once some of the speed and weight issues are looked at it might be worth flying. Now it's just a re-hash of the old G-6 we *used* to have.

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« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2006, 03:25:10 PM »
its still another spitfire and another 109

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« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2006, 03:34:12 PM »
This isn't "still another spitfire" -- it's probably the most uber spitfire we've ever had and will ever get. This puppy's probably going to end up perked at the rate it's going.

And you still say "it's not new"??

It's had a profound impact on the arena as a whole!

A spitfire is not a spitfire is not a spitfire. Same goes for other variants. The P47N is, I think it's safe to say, pretty far ahead of the P47D-40 in performance and range. It's a big leap forward.

The 109G-14, once it is given the steroids it needs, will also be a new 109. Albeit, it will be similar to the G-6 in performance in most ways, it will be a step up from the G-14 due to its 30mm gun.

Thes planes all perform differently than the other variants of the same name We have gotten some pretty powerful planes lately. I suspect we will continue to get some more powerful planes, and I suspect these will also be variants.

As for "originally totally new we don't even have anything similar to it yet" kind of additions -- not til 1) after TOD and 2) a sizable chunk of the older planes is re-done to AH2's current standards.

I personally think (opinion here) that we'll start seeing one or two added in with the old ones being redone, but not until mid-to-end 2006 (<-- again, opinion, disclaimer)

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« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2006, 04:22:10 PM »
you dont get it
i dont care about performance, there is plenty of aircrafts who deserve to be add to game, this game its not only fighter vs fighter

Before they finish TOD and redone all planes its gonna be time for AH3

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« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2006, 04:43:24 PM »
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« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2006, 05:10:02 PM »
i have to agree...

a spit is a spit is a spit

a p47 is a p47 is a p47

a 109 is a 109 is a 109


i did fly the 47n actually... like a pony with a bit more manuever, but less climb and accell. nothing amazingly different than other p47's, not like an entirely different plane or anything.

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« Reply #14 on: February 14, 2006, 06:42:09 AM »
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i have to agree...

a spit is a spit is a spit

a p47 is a p47 is a p47

a 109 is a 109 is a 109


i did fly the 47n actually... like a pony with a bit more manuever, but less climb and accell. nothing amazingly different than other p47's, not like an entirely different plane or anything.

just my opinion


Am with Ramzey on this one - would like to see them add some new aircraft to the roster instead of the endless re-do's of the SPits and 109's or anything having to do with TOD.

The rest of us that pay the bills would like to have some new toys as well.

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