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Offline RAIDER14

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« Reply #15 on: February 13, 2006, 10:12:05 PM »

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« Reply #17 on: February 13, 2006, 10:18:15 PM »
Raider, I hope you aren't ****ing serious.

You ever bang metal against metal?  You get a spark.  

You bang a plane up against thousands upon thousands of pounds of steel, I'd expect you get a big spark.
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« Reply #18 on: February 13, 2006, 10:21:48 PM »
ok yeah on the top right viewer it shows that the aircraft's nose impacted the building cuaseing the flash

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« Reply #19 on: February 13, 2006, 10:38:05 PM »
didnt see any flash. what I did see si what looks like a possible reflection off a couple of the windows above and just before the plane hits
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« Reply #20 on: February 13, 2006, 10:42:55 PM »
you can only imagine what the people on the plane were thinking when they looked out the window and saw they were headong right at a building or what the people in the offices at the wtc were thinking when they saw the plane coming right at them

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« Reply #21 on: February 13, 2006, 10:45:10 PM »
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didnt see any flash. what I did see si what looks like a possible reflection off a couple of the windows above and just before the plane hits


that was probaly the sun reflecting off the AA plane and onto the tower


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« Reply #23 on: February 14, 2006, 01:32:47 AM »
Complete bull**** by someone who doesn't know their bellybutton from a hole in the ground.

First off, metal that is red hot [SIZE=8]IS NOT MOLTEN METAL[/SIZE].  When the metal becomes red hot, that means it has reached the magic number, 1200 degrees (fahrenheit).  Most of the knives you own are of higher quality steel.  They turn red at 1412 degrees.

WHEN this happens, it means that the metal is completely malleable.  I can take a piece of metal, fold it upon itself and the two pieces would merge if I put decent amounts of force on it.  Sorta like a stick of gum.

Doing my basic conversion, 1000 degrees centigrade is 1823 degrees Fahrenheit.  Way more then enough to make the highest grade of steel malleable.

Next, this ****** compares the grey dust clouds to the reaction of thermite.

Never once did it occur to this handsomehunk that CONCRETE IS GREY.

Lastly, this retard tries to compare the way the buildings fell down to how buildings fell down from earthquakes.  I'm not even going to respond to this.


I would continue going through this article and dismantle it piece by piece with ease, but in doing so I would become more and more aggravated by how STUPID some people are and never get to sleep.


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Not once in any of these conspiracy theories doe these handsomehunkes ever consult with someone who actually builds these things.  I mean, what would those who build skyscrapers know about constructions and failures?
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« Reply #24 on: February 14, 2006, 07:01:11 AM »
Pretty crazy, but if you watch this film at about 1:00 in it, you see the above series of images Raider posted.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5165579631272708143&q=wtc

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« Reply #25 on: February 14, 2006, 09:54:55 AM »
This one's interesting... it's almost two hours long.

Loose Change 9-11 Alex Jones Conspiracy
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2023320890224991194
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« Reply #26 on: February 14, 2006, 10:13:44 AM »
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"I have never seen melted steel in a building fire," says retired New York deputy fire chief Vincent Dunn, author of The Collapse Of Burning Buildings: A Guide To Fireground Safety. "But I've seen a lot of twisted, warped, bent and sagging steel. What happens is that the steel tries to expand at both ends, but when it can no longer expand, it sags and the surrounding concrete cracks."


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"Steel loses about 50 percent of its strength at 1100°F," notes senior engineer Farid Alfawak-hiri of the American Institute of Steel Construction. "And at 1800° it is probably at less than 10 percent."


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« Reply #27 on: February 14, 2006, 11:21:35 AM »
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"Steel loses about 50 percent of its strength at 1100°F," notes senior engineer Farid Alfawak-hiri of the American Institute of Steel Construction. "And at 1800° it is probably at less than 10 percent."


No.  He's either misquoted or completely wrong.  All Steel literally becomes bendable like a stick of gum at no higher than 1412.  You go even higher it becomes easier.


Sorry the use of huge letters and caps earlier.  I was a little bit drunk and definately pissed off.
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« Reply #28 on: February 14, 2006, 11:57:23 AM »
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
No.  He's either misquoted or completely wrong.  All Steel literally becomes bendable like a stick of gum at no higher than 1412.  You go even higher it becomes easier.



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“At temperatures of 120 degrees C (248 F) until 300 degrees C (500 F) or so, there is no change in the properties of steel or concrete, no loss of strength. Beyond that, steel loses strength. At 800 to 1,000 degrees C (1,472-1,832 F) it is 20 percent of what it should be. - Dr. Saeed Mirza, professor of civil engineering and applied mechanics at McGill University, Montreal, Canada


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« Reply #29 on: February 14, 2006, 12:20:09 PM »
Conspiracy theories stem from the fact that people do not want to willingly accept the simple explanation. Two symbols of America brought down by a group of men armed with the simplest of tools, driven by religion and hate, fueled by terrifying determination... or....

A very complex plot involving oil companies, the president, drone aircraft, all the passengers being government employees (now in hiding), hidden explosives, saudi nationals, halliburton, and weapon releases from USAF interceptors.

I'd almost like to see one of these "experts" tell somebody who had a relative in the towers, on the first 2 planes, on flight 93... that their relative is part of the conspiracy and either wasn't on the plane, or didn't exist to begin with.