Nope...not worried about this at all...

[fartwinkle]

Originally posted by Leslie
I have a question concerning Waco.  I remember seeing on TV some Alabama national guard units there with a huge Alabama flag.  This drew my attention, and what I'd like to know is, why were they in Texas?  Isn't that illegal to have state guards operating in another state?  Not trying to start an argument, but is a sincere question.  Can anyone answer this?




Les

You sure its was the NG? It might have been the Klan:huh

[Leslie]

Never heard that theory before.  Doesn't seem plausible to me, but the news mentioned the NG and that's why I asked.



Les

[Red Tail 444]

Originally posted by Mini D
^It will be a bit like the kennedy estate, only bigger... with no Ted.

You tool:D

[Red Tail 444]

Originally posted by fartwinkle
I have a close friend who is Church of latter day saints and although I dont belive in the same way he does we have repsect for eachothers beliefs.
The Government needs to leave these folks alone unless they can PROVE some laws are being broken or that they are a threat to national security.

In America we have a right to be Odd balls and kooks as long as we dont hurt anyone.
 

We need to be preemptive, take them out now before they DO become a threat. I believe that when we go in there, we'll find plenty of rules violations.

However many troops we might need...double it

[ChickenHawk]

Originally posted by john9001
a B29?  you really are out of touch with reality.

Hey, I've seen Fifi fly with my very own eyes.  It's within the realm of possibility, no matter how slight.

[Maverick]

So far this is much ado about nothing. While it is very convenient to draw comparisons to Waco and the crap that happened there, it is far too early to be concerned.

Is this kind of attention going to crop up everytine someone decides to drop out of society and live by themselves?? What the hell would thoreu (sp) think if the media decended on waldon pond to film his departure from society.

Laz, While I do not condone what occured at Waco it was not nearly the one sided situation that is often portrayed, or like Ruby Ridge. There were 2 sides at fault for the loss of life at Waco. Especially for the loss of the kids.

[ChickenHawk]

Originally posted by Maverick
There were 2 sides at fault for the loss of life at Waco.

Yes, but one side more than the other.

[Sandman]

Originally posted by ChickenHawk
Yes, but one side more than the other.

That would be the dead side.

[x0847Marine]

Originally posted by Mini D
My compound will be bigger and have a brewery. Men will not be allowed to marry, but will have 8 slutty girlfriends each. We'll generate income with revenue from internet porn. We'll all be armed in case someone wants to steal our beer, women or porn.

I'm in.

[lazs2]

mav... some blame could be laid on the branch dividians at Waco but I would say that probly 90% or better belonged to the government.   there was no reason for them to even be there.  They were invited to come and look around.   No hostility to any law enforcement people had ever been shown by the davidians.... just the oppossite in fact.   The people were fired upon by government forces for no reason and so felt their lives were in danger.

At one point... the negotiator tells the davidians that if they try to come out to surrender they will be killed.

Ruby ridge was also an attack on citizens by large groups of government police over what is essentialy a minor tax matter against people who have had no history of ever being agressive against law enforcement.

lazs

[fartwinkle]

Originally posted by Red Tail 444
We need to be preemptive, take them out now before they DO become a threat. I believe that when we go in there, we'll find plenty of rules violations.

However many troops we might need...double it

LOL are you for real?
Preemptive huh! well i guess with that way of thinking we should arrest all inner city young black males before they become crack dealers and pimps.

We happen to live in a country that has this irratating little rule of law.
Innocent until PROVEN guilty.
Oh and lets not forget one of the main reasons there is an America is freedom of religeon.

[fartwinkle]

Originally posted by lazs2


Ruby ridge was also an attack on citizens by large groups of government police over what is essentialy a minor tax matter against people who have had no history of ever being agressive against law enforcement.

lazs

You got that right lazs:aok
Infact the only thing ruby ridge did was KILL a woman holding a bay in her arms.
Ruby ridge was nothing but the feds flexin there muscles and showing there arses and it backfired.

I firmly believe that America is soo lucky that we have the RIGHT to arm ourselves and IMHO all Americans have a duty to do so.
An armed population will for the most part keep our government from walking all over its citizens.

Like Mr Heston said you wany my guns? fine come pry them out of my cold dead hands.

[Hangtime]

If, with the stroke of a pen, the government issues a 'turn 'em in or go to jail order' and thereby makes the gun owners 'criminals' the exceeding majority will surrender their arms meekly.

In a nation where every gas pump has a security camera pointed at it, where money is digital, were the citizens must have ID on their person at all times by law, where access to bridges, interstate highways, public transportation is controlled and or closely monitored, resistance is futile.

Most people, facing a choice of carrying on with their comfortable lives unarmed or becoming a felon by resisting will simply fold. The average guy, with a mortgage, a wife, kids and a job will not use that weapon to resist [/i]and thereby 'throw everything away' when faced with the final choice. They will surrender their arms.

We're just about there now... and all bluster aside... reality bites.

[ChickenHawk]

Originally posted by Sandman
That would be the dead side.

Don't believe everything the government tells you Sandy.

[fartwinkle]

Originally posted by Hangtime
If, with the stroke of a pen, the government issues a 'turn 'em in or go to jail order' and thereby makes the gun owners 'criminals' the exceeding majority will surrender their arms meekly.

In a nation where every gas pump has a security camera pointed at it, where money is digital, were the citizens must have ID on their person at all times by law, where access to bridges, interstate highways, public transportation is controlled and or closely monitored, resistance is futile.

Most people, facing a choice of carrying on with their comfortable lives unarmed or becoming a felon by resisting will simply fold. The average guy, with a mortgage, a wife, kids and a job will not use that weapon to resist [/i]and thereby 'throw everything away' when faced with the final choice. They will surrender their arms.

We're just about there now... and all bluster aside... reality bites.

Hum I guess someone forget to tell all of those rebs who died in the civil war.
We are the heavley armed population on the planet dont think for a minute that gun owners would just take it lying down.

Blood would be ankle deep in the streets.