Nope...not worried about this at all...

[Hangtime]

I have huge doubts about pointing my guns at American kids, wearing a uniform or not.

To shoot some Mom's son or daughter because he/she was just doing the duty assigined by their commander... that's a rough one.

What's the diffrence between an American Soldier fighting insurgents in Iraq and an American Soldier fighting 'insurgents' in Iowa?

Enh?

What about the cop that lives down the street.. known him for 20 years. I'm gonna have to shoot him because he's not over for a beer today?

The whole thing is filled with hard... VERY hard choices. It's all well and good to spout off about 'blood ankle deep in the streets'... but I just think it's bravado. Most won't opt to kill for the intangible concept of 'rights'.

[Vulcan]

Originally posted by fartwinkle
I have a close friend who is Church of latter day saints and although I dont belive in the same way he does we have repsect for eachothers beliefs.
The Government needs to leave these folks alone unless they can PROVE some laws are being broken or that they are a threat to national security.

In America we have a right to be Odd balls and kooks as long as we dont hurt anyone.

I think after the Waco and ruby ridge cluster%$#^# that the feds are going to be more carefull about stomping all over some folks civil rights.

IIRC Kiddie fiddling is illegal in texas.

[Dago]

If there is no hard and fast proof of wrongdoing, then they should be left alone.

I hope they build the buildings out of fireproof material.

[wrag]

does this mean I can't have my harem??????????

[Vulcan]

Originally posted by Dago
If there is no hard and fast proof of wrongdoing, then they should be left alone.

I hope they build the buildings out of fireproof material.

polygamy, underage marriage, underage sex...

In June 2005, Warren Jeffs was charged with sexual assault on a minor, and with conspiracy to commit sexual conduct with a minor for arranging the marriage between a 16-year-old girl and a 28 year old man who was already married. The events allegedly occurred in 2002. He faces his charges in Mohave County, Arizona. In July 2005, the Arizona Attorney General's office distributed wanted posters offering $10,000 (just recently it has been put up to $50,000) for information leading to the arrest of Jeffs, who is considered a fugitive. Recently Jeffs was put on the FBI's most wanted fugitive list.

yeah no hard and fast proof of wrongdoing *cough* BS *cough*

[fartwinkle]

Originally posted by Vulcan
polygamy, underage marriage, underage sex...




yeah no hard and fast proof of wrongdoing *cough* BS *cough*

Just because this clown broke the law does not meen that the whole outfit is guilty.


And futher more If the girls parents are part of this group and they aprove of the marriage then whos buisness is it anyways?

With all the kids being born to unwed girls in this country you would think that
we as a society would have more to worry about that what a few select people do in the privacy of there own little world.

As long as there is no abuse or weapons violations its none of my bees wax and i for one could care less.

[Vulcan]

Originally posted by fartwinkle
And futher more If the girls parents are part of this group and they aprove of the marriage then whos buisness is it anyways?

Ya know you're right Jim, who cares if 40 year old men are doing 12 year old girls... pass the koolaid.

[Maverick]

Hangtime,

In the scenario you are talking about you have to take another tack on it. There will be more than a few of those "kids in uniform" or wearing the "blue suit" who will not be enforcing something like you are talking about. They will be joining the "other side". Just because you wear a uniform does not make you a non thinking robot.

Possibly Marines excepted>>>>>>>>>>
 GD&R  

[wrag]

Originally posted by Vulcan
Ya know you're right Jim, who cares if 40 year old men are doing 12 year old girls... pass the koolaid.

Up until, what, 1920?  In many areas of the world, including America, 12 was the age many young girls got married.  And they married OLDER, frequently 40 and over, men!

Why?  Because the younger males couldn't support a family YET!

Not saying it was right, or that it is right, saying what WAS.

As to who cares?  Hey some of these 12 year olds, thanks perhaps to our new teaching techniques, and perhaps the increase of growth hormones injected into nearly everything we eat, THINK themselves ready, THINK themselves able, and are actively, and aggresively looking for ................

Some parents DON'T have a clue.  Some parents do but don't seem to care.

Not saying that this situation is right, saying what IS.

IMHO fartwinkle may be taking a more realistic look at things......................

[wrag]

Originally posted by Maverick
Hangtime,

In the scenario you are talking about you have to take another tack on it. There will be more than a few of those "kids in uniform" or wearing the "blue suit" who will not be enforcing something like you are talking about. They will be joining the "other side". Just because you wear a uniform does not make you a non thinking robot.

Possibly Marines excepted>>>>>>>>>>
 GD&R  

HUH:O    

Marines excepted

BURN THE WITCH BURN THE WITCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Vulcan]

Originally posted by wrag
Up until, what, 1920?  In many areas of the world, including America, 12 was the age many young girls got married.  And they married OLDER, frequently 40 and over, men!

hey lets not forget other cool things from history... like slavery, human sacrafices, racism, colonial rule of America by the british... if we're gonna bring back pedophilia then why not roll the rest of em in

[wrag]

Originally posted by Vulcan
hey lets not forget other cool things from history... like slavery, human sacrafices, racism, colonial rule of America by the british... if we're gonna bring back pedophilia then why not roll the rest of em in

Whoa there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Did you read what I posted?????

I did NOT say bring it back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Are we jumping to conclusions here?

I stated what I see as facts.  Stuff I have garnered over some 50 years of watching our system.  There are people out there that very much want such things to be alright!  One or two are even college professors with tenure!  Got a couple of Psych types claiming it does NO HARM but is actually GOOD for em.  Go check it out.  The information is there for you to see.

Have you looked at what is being taught to young people in schools??????

Much of what is supposedly education SEEMS to be incouraging the above mentioned behavour.

If you object take it up with the school systems and the people promoting it.

And you might wanna take it up with some of these 12 year olds that listen to their teachers and their peers and are acting on it!

GEEZ did we fall off on the deep end this morning or what????

[Slash27]

Originally posted by Vulcan
[B
pass the koolaid. [/B]

hey, this tastes funny......









 That place should make a hell of a fire.

[fartwinkle]

Originally posted by Vulcan
Ya know you're right Jim, who cares if 40 year old men are doing 12 year old girls... pass the koolaid.

And we send 18 year olds to die for other countrys so whats your point.
Granted I think 12 is way too young for any kind of relationship other than the ones with there friends and family.
But the burden of proof is on the feds as we really have no idea what they are really doing.

Unless you have seen it with your own eyes you dont know squat.
They chose this life and with there parents concent it truly is none of anyones buisness cause ya know sometimes the world dont want to be saved.

[Red Tail 444]

Originally posted by fartwinkle
LOL are you for real?
Preemptive huh! well i guess with that way of thinking we should arrest all inner city young black males before they become crack dealers and pimps.

We happen to live in a country that has this irratating little rule of law.
Innocent until PROVEN guilty.
Oh and lets not forget one of the main reasons there is an America is freedom of religeon.

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