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« Reply #15 on: March 13, 2006, 10:38:18 PM »
The final push that placed the Allies near the German border late in 1918 would not have been possible without American military might.  

The British and French armies, which had fought valiantly for four years, had been bled white.  The U.S. military had at it's disposal nearly 5 million men, of which around 1 million were combat troops.  U.S. casualties from the summer of 1918 until the armistice totalled more than 300,000 men.

At the current casualty rate, the war in Iraq would have to rage for 300 years to match that total.

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« Reply #16 on: March 13, 2006, 10:41:55 PM »
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« Reply #17 on: March 13, 2006, 10:47:44 PM »
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Name one war won by only USA alone please


The Civil War...Mexican-American War....War of 1812...



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« Reply #18 on: March 13, 2006, 10:51:55 PM »
we won the mexican american war by ourselves. that was shortly after texas was admitted into the union. 1840s.
I agree bout the civil war thing, no one won in that one.
the spanish american war was all us, late 1890s. led to america being an empire for a short time.
After that, not really. its best to include ur friends in ur victories. it makes them feel better about themselves. however, of our allies, im belive whole heartidly that britain can take care of herself no prob. Japans self defense force is pretty squared away, but they are by no means offensive. maybe germanys still has some killin left in her. who knows, i have  a feelin we will find out in a few years.:aok

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« Reply #19 on: March 13, 2006, 10:54:05 PM »
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We had the help of France and Poland.

We also lost this one.

I think Texas helped us with this one. (Back when they were an independent nation, as they should be.)

We did kick Panama's butt when Noriega threatened to snitch out Bush I, and stomped some cuban mercs in Grenada for some reason.



Wow...you really need to brush up on your history.  The United States of America won the Civil War. The Conferdate States of America lost the Civil War.

The Spanish-American War was at the turn of the last century past the time that Texas was annexed and made part of the United States during our "Manifest Destiny" period of our country's expansion in the 1800's.   And it was against Spain.


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« Reply #20 on: March 13, 2006, 11:09:51 PM »
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A stalemate is a never moving line. That was 1914/1915/and some of 1916. Most of 1917 it moved dramatically. American forces arrived in Summer of 1918.
 
 

No, it didn't. It had an internal revolution which left much of it's military in disarray. Communism gained it's foothold then.  

 

Some, not all. Russia reached a peace agreement with Germany but German forces remained on the Eastern front.

 

The first part of the Sommes offense was entirely British, French, Australian and Canadian. The second part involved 130,000 Americans. Far less than the British or French had in.

Yes, Americans fought and helped. The deciveness they had was simply bullet absorbing bodies on the ground.


Incredible.

Shuddering bull**** laced with accuracy. The kinda twisted truth I'd expect to hear spouted by an untenured gay economics professor assigined to sub a real history class. Where in hell dija get yer edjumacation, Mr. NattyIced? Commie Martyr U ?
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« Reply #21 on: March 13, 2006, 11:18:33 PM »
As long as everyone knows the US wouldn't have won in Afghanistan and against Saddam in War #2 without Danish military might, I'm happy.

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« Reply #22 on: March 13, 2006, 11:24:49 PM »
thank god we had the danish with us.















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« Reply #23 on: March 13, 2006, 11:33:09 PM »
Hangtime, Natty is just confused, looks like he's thinking of WWI, not WWII.
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« Reply #24 on: March 13, 2006, 11:45:59 PM »
.... shhhhhhhh. I'm making an bellybutton of my self....

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« Reply #25 on: March 13, 2006, 11:47:37 PM »
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Originally posted by Shuckins
The final push that placed the Allies near the German border late in 1918 would not have been possible without American military might.  

The British and French armies, which had fought valiantly for four years, had been bled white.  The U.S. military had at it's disposal nearly 5 million men, of which around 1 million were combat troops.  U.S. casualties from the summer of 1918 until the armistice totalled more than 300,000 men.

At the current casualty rate, the war in Iraq would have to rage for 300 years to match that total.


Amusing as it is this continous reposting of the same french military cowardly themes, I know if I would were French - I would find it offensive that some would claim america "saved" france in WW1.
Considering the causalties the french incurred in that war France was still a fighting force in 1918 up to the armistace.
The influx of american soldiers were vital, but they were really were plugs in the line and bullet soakers just like everyone else in the allied armies until late 1918 when the germans exhausted themsleves trying to redress the unbalance the impending american divisions would cause.
American divisions were often used to support experienced Allied units because of the inexperience of the american forces. Companies of american soldiers were attached to australian divisions to gain vital battlefield craft and so "jerry wouldn't have them for breakfast".

eg. The final attacks by the Australian corps on the hindenberg line in october before the final german collapse, the 2 american divisions used to support the main attack were given australian nco's because of they were too green.

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« Reply #26 on: March 13, 2006, 11:49:06 PM »
The Complete Battle History of France?

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« Reply #27 on: March 13, 2006, 11:52:46 PM »
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Yes, Americans fought and helped. The deciveness they had was simply bullet absorbing bodies on the ground.


So your saying General Patton was wrong...  That some poor dumb bastard did win a war by dying for his country....
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« Reply #28 on: March 14, 2006, 02:22:17 AM »
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The Civil War...Mexican-American War....War of 1812...



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If you consider strategic objectives, 1812 was a tie.

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« Reply #29 on: March 14, 2006, 02:39:40 AM »
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US military victories:

1775-1783: The British crown presents a bill to American settlers who must now pay for their protection. Ungrateful settlers who are
already allergic to taxes go on a rampage and attack tea boxes on a ship; several Americans are wounded in explosions.
Americans win their sole victory in Saratoga when general Burgoyne realizes that Canadian merchants sold him ragweed instead of tea before his departure. Facing a mutiny he decides to surrender.
In the following years Americans will lose most of ther battles due to their lack of discipline and massive desertions. In 1781, 30,000 French soldiers & sailors accept to integrate 11,000 American mascots who
will play music from afar while the French win the Battle of Yorktown.
1812: The American army is crushed trying to invade Canada and abandons annexation plans.
During the 19 the century, several raids are led against Indian women and babies with the US troops achieving some victories, but fail in their effort to ethnically cleanse the Indians. Nevertheless, some sucessful slaughters will lead them to believe that they are mighty and couragous warriors.
1861-1865: Americans win an impressive victory against themselves but it took a while. The Civil War as it comes to be called, will turn out to be the only war Americans ever win. Mind you they beat themselves, but why digress.
1898: The Spanish succeed a master coup and get rid of Cuba, Puerto Rico, and the Philippines at the expense of the Americans,
leaving them the impression that they won the war. Soon the US discovers that there is no oil there, and that their new possessions are
a wastebasket, more than anything else.
1900-1950: A series of military interventions against banana republics in South America and the Caribbean against people armed with slingshots and spears has a beneficial effect on the American ego.
1918: The Americans arrive just on time to see the victory of the French and the British against the Germans. They then turn around, and try to claim the high ground by sabotaging the peace treaty and stabbing France in the back when it tries to enforce reparations and prevent Germany from rearming, thus setting the stage for WWII.
1941-1945: While as many as 20 million Russians die bleeding the Wermacht to death, the US wait until the Germans are left with the Hitler Youth, a childrens' force comprised of 14 year old soldiers to launch their assault. They are still saying today that they suffered heavy loses at their hands. In the whole Normandy Campaign they suffer less casualties than the French did in the first six months of 1940, and inflict less damage on the Germans, yet this is enough for them to claim they liberated Europe. That claim alone is the biggest piece of historical myth in history.
1950-1953: The US fails to beat North Korea, in 1953 the borders are still roughly what they were three years earlier.
1963-1973: Americans suffer cruelly from the lack of AC and marijuana of a poor quality in Vietnam. When they realize that their soldiers
can be killed in a war they retreat.
1983: The combined aviation, navy and ground troops apply an audacious plan and succeed to beat a bunch of cuban workers armed with shovels in Granada. The celebrations go on for weeks with parades and chants of USA, USA.
1991: Americans align more soldiers than the French or the British combined and succeed in crushing an army of barefoot *****e drafted against their will who are armed with empty rifles and have barely had a thing to eat in months. But even this so-called victory is hollow as it is actually led by the Daguet division from France which leads the charge while American soldiers console themselves by rounding up prisoners that TV crews did not want.

2003: Iraq. Need I go on? I think not.









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