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Offline Angus

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« Reply #75 on: March 24, 2006, 11:26:39 AM »
"Now....countered with what?"

With less CO2 and more vegetation for instance.

Of course our earth has been through many a rough cycle. What makes this particular one interesting is
1: It was predicted
2: It is coming true and even more than predicted.

The warming curve is quite fast. Still, as a sidenote, the Glaciers up where I live were smaller than this 1100 years ago. Europe's biggest glacier today was split into 2 smaller glaciers untill perhaps the 12th century.
So indeed there are always changes. Here is another sidenote.
A very rough volcanic eruption can bring so many a dark particle into the atmosphere that it cools, - and quite a bit, - by simply blocking the sun away. Now, the greenhouse effect is the opposite, simple as that.
And glaciers sometimes give a lot out of water in other ways, - where I live.
Next sunday, we have an evacuation excercize. Some 90 km's away is a nasty volcano hiding under a massive icecap. When she blows, she melts the ice quite quickly, and a floodwave occurs, heading our way with the mass of 200.000 cubic metres pro second. Unstoppable and the biggest, meanest "river" in the world, with 1000 tonne chunks of Ice floating like champagne corks in the watermass.
So, point being, there is a lot of things happening that we cannot do anything about, but we CAN do something about the CO2 effect.
Oh, and a question. Someone above in the thread said he used only 250 gallons of gas a month. Is that private use? I run a farm, and don't use that much....
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« Reply #76 on: March 24, 2006, 11:36:37 AM »
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"Now....countered with what?"

With less CO2 and more vegetation for instance.
 


I don`t see enough vegatation being planted "by hand" to make any noticeable difference.(Read that as machinery output) So......how do you suggest this gets done without creating more CO2
than it takes care of?


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the Glaciers up where I live were smaller than this 1100 years ago.

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So, point being, there is a lot of things happening that we cannot do anything about, but we CAN do something about the CO2 effect.


And , once again, I ask what? How is this going to be done without doing more damage than it supposedly is going to help.
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« Reply #77 on: March 24, 2006, 11:42:31 AM »
Nuclear.

We Kahn DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO it!

About damn time we started crackin atoms fer power; BIG time.
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« Reply #78 on: March 24, 2006, 11:50:59 AM »
You mindless pathetic humans.....

Look at what you gotten yourselves into....  I'll give you a few clues on how to fix your lil blue ball and be done with you.

problems:

Global Warming
Glaciers Melting
Famine
Wars


Take the water melting from the Glaciers to the Deserts of the World. Quinch the Thrist of these dry lands and make them fertile again. Crops to feed the hungered, trees to heal the atmosphere.

Stop fighting and play nice.

As for the dam Moon...... it's overperked anyways.  Make a new one.

Problem solved........next?


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« Reply #79 on: March 24, 2006, 12:13:05 PM »
Hah! I have to agree with HangTime! :o No nukes is bad nukes... expensive, and not without problems, which now include the security issue. But it's clean, ie. zero emissions into the atmosphere.

As for processing nuclear waste, it can be done, provided we don't all go SuperNimby about the issue, and dump it on some poor unsuspecting third world country.

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« Reply #80 on: March 24, 2006, 12:20:16 PM »
Yah, best place to dump it would not be some third world country.

Better put it all in say.... England. Lots of old mines there.
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« Reply #81 on: March 24, 2006, 12:23:09 PM »
Ohhh "old mines"  thought you said "old mimes"....

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« Reply #82 on: March 24, 2006, 12:42:07 PM »
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Quote from the first link...
And why would he have anymore credibility than the other scientists who claim it is a normal cycle of the Earth to go through?  Or how about the scientists who also say there is nothing abnormal with the weather at all?  Or how about the scientists who claim it is all caused by methane from cows?  Or how about the scientists who claim it is all from the dead bodies we bury everyday?

Grab a hold of anything you want and jump up and down and yell.  It makes diddily poop difference as I pretty much have surmised there are a lot of idiotic scientists around who have no clue what is going on, but like to pretend they do.


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« Reply #83 on: March 24, 2006, 12:55:22 PM »
It never ceases to amaze me that there are people who claim to be "scientists" all talking about "global warming" like it never happened before. I suppose if global warming is the fault of people there never were any previous ice ages and warming cycles. I find that very very hard to fathom, since the evidence other "scientists" have provided indicate that there have been numerous cooling and warming cycles ALL of them well before industrialized human society ever came about.

Gee I wonder who caused them to happen? I know!! No doubt BOOSH did it! That's the solution we must all blame BOOSH, or is it we must all have waffles???
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« Reply #84 on: March 24, 2006, 12:56:13 PM »
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Or how about the scientists who claim it is all caused by methane from cows?
I didn't know Dago was a scientist!

Skuzz, do a google search on "causes of global warming". There is page after page of hits. All of them cite greenhouse gas emissions as a leading cause - except articles like those by Michael Crichton, who blames Aliens! :lol

Even the US Government has admitted, for the first time, that it's a problem caused by humans: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/2023835.stm

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The US Government has acknowledged for the first time that man-made pollution is largely to blame for global warming.

But it has again refused to shift its position on the Kyoto Protocol, an international treaty designed to mitigate global warming which the Bush administration rejected last year. The White House had previously said there was not enough scientific evidence to blame industrial emissions for global warming.

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« Reply #85 on: March 24, 2006, 01:16:47 PM »
Sure, Google is an omniscient and unbiased authority on the entire universe.

Regarding the environment wigging out, it's more than enough of a reason to screw off from this planet.  
We could set the destinations of each lump of people relative to how well they get along here.. Al Q & Co. can **** off one way, and do their own thing somewhere far, far away while everyone else heads the opposite way:lol
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« Reply #86 on: March 24, 2006, 01:28:40 PM »
I concur and recommend that AlQ and company colonize SOL.
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« Reply #87 on: March 24, 2006, 01:31:25 PM »
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Sure, Google is an omniscient and unbiased authority on the entire universe.
Really? I thought it was a search engine. :confused:

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« Reply #88 on: March 24, 2006, 01:48:11 PM »
Skuzzy; if you would have to travel from point A to point B and you'd have two possible routes; one which might have few mines here and there and another one, maybe bit longer but a safe one, which route would you take ?

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« Reply #89 on: March 24, 2006, 02:28:14 PM »
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I didn't know Dago was a scientist!

Skuzz, do a google search on "causes of global warming". There is page after page of hits. All of them cite greenhouse gas emissions as a leading cause - except articles like those by Michael Crichton, who blames Aliens! :lol

Even the US Government has admitted, for the first time, that it's a problem caused by humans: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/2023835.stm
Again, what makes it credible?  Have you actuaally done the research yourself, or are you just spewing forth the rhetoric from others?

I could write a paper, claim to be a scientist, and get it published in the press, and there you go.

Show me one credible government body on this planet.  Nevermind, you can't.  None of them are.

Staga, I cannot relate to your question at all.  What is the point you are trying to make?  Quit tap dancing and spit it out.
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