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Offline Monk

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« Reply #30 on: April 02, 2006, 03:09:24 AM »
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In February, Blackwater USA, a North Carolina-based Pentagon contractor, began hiring former combat personnel in Chile, offering them up to $4,000 a month to guard oil wells in Iraq.

I certainly hope they pay Americans more then that.
while 4 grand a month may be alot for someone from Chile.
Thats Peanuts for an American considering the dangers involved.
I can make more then that by not risking getting shot at
That is about right, 1000 a week.

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« Reply #31 on: April 02, 2006, 03:24:01 AM »
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That is about right, 1000 a week.


Thats ok. Let someone else play sucker
Gonna haveta pay me a hell of alot more then that to put my arse on the line
I can do better then that now. Easy
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« Reply #32 on: April 02, 2006, 03:36:28 AM »
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Of course my wife isnt speaking to me right now, the last thing she said was "if you are stupid enough to want to kill yourself, there are easier ways."  
 


Do you really love your wife? That's a hell of a thing to put your wife through. Don't be so sure she'll be there for you when you get back. No amount of money is worth that. Your wife shouldn't have to go through her daily dose of living hell worrying about whether the man she married is going to come back in a body bag.
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« Reply #33 on: April 02, 2006, 03:38:43 AM »
1000/week = 52k/year.
Not worth it.
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« Reply #34 on: April 02, 2006, 11:36:51 AM »
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Everything is waiverable.

There are Army cooks working PSS for Blackwater now.


Tell ya what I will believe more of what I read on there website more than what some of you keyboard commandos are saying.

Yeah they might hire a cook if they need a cook but he aint gonna be no security contractor thats for sure.

Dont believe me? well go ahead and see if they will hire anyone that does not have the skills listed on there site.

Oh and please feel free to show us all the proof when you do.

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« Reply #35 on: April 02, 2006, 12:28:57 PM »
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Do you really love your wife? That's a hell of a thing to put your wife through. Don't be so sure she'll be there for you when you get back. No amount of money is worth that. Your wife shouldn't have to go through her daily dose of living hell worrying about whether the man she married is going to come back in a body bag.


Ok ok, look.  The whole idea here is that yeah, I'm thinking of doing this because if they would take me it would be a chance at setting my life right financially and getting a stake so maybe I can go back home and setup my own business.  Thats a BIG if, considering the shape I'm in and that I really dont qualify for employment under their guidelines.  The whole point is moot though if the wife wont go along.  I mean, any plans I make for my future have to include her.  I may not be the brightest bulb in the lamp, but I havent gone completely dark yet.  So yeah, if she wont go along, then I'd have to back off.  I'm not heartless.  Even if she does go along, my odds of getting employed by them arent that great.  The only things I have going for me arent listed in the requirements.  The requirements that ARE listed I fail miserably.  

Its not so much that she worries about me dying.  We are both pretty secure in our philosophies on death.  If you die, you die.  Everyone does.  Her philosophy though is, why rush it?  And while I'm not exactly good at avoiding brushes with death, I'm not jumping in line to commit suicide either.  Its just my philosophy is more like I'm gonna go sometime, why not push the odds a bit and go for the payoff?  

Ive got 2 days.  3 days really, since they'll be here 2 days interviewing.  Whatever happens, happens.

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« Reply #37 on: April 02, 2006, 04:03:37 PM »
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Tell ya what I will believe more of what I read on there website more than what some of you keyboard commandos are saying.

Yeah they might hire a cook if they need a cook but he aint gonna be no security contractor thats for sure.

Dont believe me? well go ahead and see if they will hire anyone that does not have the skills listed on there site.

Oh and please feel free to show us all the proof when you do.



Of course a cook won't be doing PSD work if that's the ONLY skill he has.  However, I can easily prove to you that x military people who were in non
combat arms trades that go and take some training from a school like ours, HK, Ronin in South Africa, TEES, or other places like this can suffeciently pad their resume that they can get their foot in the door.  A lot of the companies are using many people such as this.  In fact, Blackwater which HAS been using operators with this level of experience and training will be forced to use even more if they are only paying 150$ a day for site security.  The last contract offer I think that came up was 15000$K USD a month doing the exact same thing, site security in Afghanistan.  An X PPCLI buddy of mine is doing this there right now and says there is lots of non-x military types doing this work, as the well is drying up for good, experienced guys for the big money PSD jobs.

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« Reply #38 on: April 02, 2006, 04:36:03 PM »
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Its not so much that she worries about me dying.  We are both pretty secure in our philosophies on death.  If you die, you die.  Everyone does.  Her philosophy though is, why rush it?  And while I'm not exactly good at avoiding brushes with death, I'm not jumping in line to commit suicide either.  Its just my philosophy is more like I'm gonna go sometime, why not push the odds a bit and go for the payoff?  

Ive got 2 days.  3 days really, since they'll be here 2 days interviewing.  Whatever happens, happens.


Well there is a reason your wife isn't speaking to you. Shouldn't she be involved in this type of decision? Seems like you're disrespecting her input. If you get killed, it affects her both financially and emotionally. Your being gone for that contract period also affects her.

If not in a body bag, how would your getting paralysed, maimed by an IED be? Risk not only death, but perhaps bound to a wheel chair for the rest of your life?

I'm not trying to bust your chops here. I do wish you the best of luck and success whatever choice you make. Just don't forget your wife in the decision making process, okay? She deserves it.
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« Reply #39 on: April 02, 2006, 05:40:17 PM »
$1000/week? lol i make that now! more with OT!
think ill stay here where the biggest danger to me is a lonely housewife in need of some kevin lovin!
Crap now I gotta redo my cool sig.....crap!!! I cant remeber how to do it all !!!!!

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« Reply #40 on: April 02, 2006, 06:35:45 PM »
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$1000/week? lol i make that now! more with OT!
think ill stay here where the biggest danger to me is a lonely housewife in need of some kevin lovin!


Hmmm the danger of the wife.
I hadnt considered that.

Ok where do I sign up.
May be safer (mentally anyway) in Iraq :D
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« Reply #41 on: April 02, 2006, 10:45:23 PM »
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Of course a cook won't be doing PSD work if that's the ONLY skill he has.  However, I can easily prove to you that x military people who were in non
combat arms trades that go and take some training from a school like ours, HK, Ronin in South Africa, TEES, or other places like this can suffeciently pad their resume that they can get their foot in the door.  A lot of the companies are using many people such as this.  In fact, Blackwater which HAS been using operators with this level of experience and training will be forced to use even more if they are only paying 150$ a day for site security.  The last contract offer I think that came up was 15000$K USD a month doing the exact same thing, site security in Afghanistan.  An X PPCLI buddy of mine is doing this there right now and says there is lots of non-x military types doing this work, as the well is drying up for good, experienced guys for the big money PSD jobs.


Got a buddy that put in 6 years with the 82nd airborne and he tried to get on with them.
They told him no thanks so he went to the Mcmillan sniper school and he is on a waiting list.
they told him that they would give priority to spec ops people.
BTW the Mcmillan school is first rate the owners son is an active duty Seal.

http://www.sniperschool.org/

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« Reply #42 on: April 02, 2006, 10:55:04 PM »
it always comes back to snipers dont it.:noid

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« Reply #43 on: April 02, 2006, 11:34:59 PM »
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it always comes back to snipers dont it.:noid


8 post in 4 years and thats the best you can come up with?
LOL think about it for another 4 years and then get back with us:rofl

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« Reply #44 on: April 03, 2006, 10:44:29 AM »
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it always comes back to snipers dont it.:noid


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