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Offline Maverick

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« Reply #30 on: April 05, 2006, 09:38:10 PM »
Nash's opinion is worth less than the paper it's printed on as far as what he thinks about the United States. He isn't a citizen, doesn't live there can't register as either repub or demo. He just likes whining and name calling. It's gotten to be an old record.
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« Reply #31 on: April 05, 2006, 09:55:17 PM »
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Nash wrote:
Guys like you are kids that never grew up. Guys that suck at the tit of security, tucking their safety blanket up under the corner of their chins, looking to God, Daddy, Mommy, Guns and Government to protect you.

Confirmed: Study: Whiny, Insecure Kids Grow Up Conservative...
Remember the whiny, insecure kid in nursery school, the one who always thought everyone was out to get him, and was always running to the teacher with complaints? Chances are he grew up to be a conservative.

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There are so many of you little fearers out there that you wound up electing a government that, all they had to do to win your faint hearts over was to say "BANG!" and you all buckled like little girls.

This was no accident:
Why do Conservatives have more Nightmares?
What does it mean that conservative Republicans have almost three times as many nightmares as do liberal Democrats?
People on the right had more nightmares and dreams in which they lacked power. They had a greater frequency of lifelike dreams. Female rights were especially anxious about family relationships, and male rights had dreams almost devoid of girlfriends. People on the left had fewer nightmares and more dreams in which they had power. They had a greater frequency of good fortunes and bizarre elements in their dreams. Female lefts had an especially high frequency of good fortunes, and male lefts had an unusually high percentage of female characters.


Ahhh yes a study of AND I QUOTE DIRECTLY FROM THE FIRST LINK:
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95 kids from the Berkeley area that social scientists


We have the words Berkeley and Social in the same sentence.  What would people at "Berkeley" let alone "social scientists" know about political conservatism?  Their idea of a conservative is somone whom in the midwest would probably be a staunch liberal.  It even says in the article that it doesn't represent a good cross section of America.  It's funny how people bring these unscientific unfactual studies and enter them as gospel.....especially when this thread was started as humor.

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« Reply #32 on: April 05, 2006, 10:03:59 PM »
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His cheerios are perpetually filled with urine. ;)



His own.

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« Reply #33 on: April 05, 2006, 10:43:34 PM »
DREDIOCK wrote:
Curious.
Would you. and have you ever voted republican?

Yes. I often vote for individual republicans in local elections. Some are personal friends. I also voted for Reagan/Bush in '80.

One year, the Dem candidate for a local office escaped indictment on corruption charges by letting his wheelchair bound father take the fall, and the Rep candidate was pending indictment. The only other candidate was from the Communist Workers party. I voted for the one who wasn't a crook.

Can you name the last (in your opinion) and why good republican president?

Ford had excellent entertainment value.

Can you name the last( again in your opinion) and why Bad Democrat President

Clinton pissed me off by campaigning on Health Care Insurance Reform, and then sold us out by putting his former-insurance-company-lawyer-wife in charge of selling out.

Carter was a nice guy in a job that eats nice guys for lunch.

LBJ was a mean bastard.

Or are you so brainwashed by your political party that you are totally devoid of independent thought whatsoever and the best you can do is spew party line rhetoric and quote largely fabricated stories from completely biased sources such as we've been witness to you doing over the last several days?

Whoa there. I don't think I've stated my political affiliation. If you inferred one, you inferred incorrectly.

Your "How Bush Stole the Election" is a classic example of the very type of thing you are saying Bush said.
If there were a single ounce of truth to it, 9/11 or no 9/11 we would still have democrats swinging from the tops of trees like monkeys screaming it out at thew top of their lungs even today.


That's how they lost what little respect I had for them. They just rolled over. Starting with Gore. By not fighting for a clean election, he proved he wasn't fit for the job.

They rolled over for the orwellian abomination called the PATRIOT Act, rolled over on Iraq, and are consistent only in that they consistently have no spine.

Do you really believe that? If so I have this really cool version of 9/11 where Bush ordered all the people on all the flights that crashed and died that day moved to a top secret secure undisclosed location where they remain to this day and instead had exact duplicates of these aircraft flown by radio remote control by Bush Sr's CIA cronies into the WTC, The Pentagon, and that field in Pennsy.

So your position is that claiming an election was fixed is equivalent to claiming "aliens ate my brain." You got me there. I guess there never has been a rigged election, anywhere, anytime.

Or is it that your so blinded as many are. In your pure hatred of Bush that your willing to accept anything without question thrown your way that might even remotely make him look like the devil himself?

Again, you attempt to validate your position by overstating mine.

I despise covert manipulation. The Bushies started it in the 2000 campaign, when they were hyping China and their half-dozen non-deliverable nukes as the next armageddon.

When things started getting bad (less than 50% of americans polled said Bush's administration was legit), sycophants of an old Bush ally delivered a convenient distraction.

Whichever party you belong to. Stop listening to the rheotoric being thrown at you and start questioning party HQ as to their rhetoric and their motives. You will see they dont like when you do that.
They dont like it cause they are both full of watermelon and they know it
Your being manipulated. BOTH sides do it to great effect.

Shot... score!

You really think the Democratic or republican parties really give a damn about you or your well being?
Hell no. They only care about their inner circle getting into and keeping power. And to do that they will say anything they think you will buy into to get there and do just enough. and I do mean just barely enough to kjeep them there.

And another score! Can he make the hat-trick? ...

Bush aint great
Bush aint evil
Clinton wasnt great
Clinton wasnt evil
Dont let any party liners tell you otherwise


Not quite.

No president in recent history has caused as much enduring damage as this clown and his administration. They trashed half the Bill of Rights, effectively eradicated Habeas Corpus, and ruined the credibility of our country.

I have friends all over the world. They can't believe what's going on here. 5 years ago most of them respected america, now they distrust it.

Bush is making us look a lot like Germany in 1938. I asked a friend who was there if he saw the parallel as well, and he said "Yes, it was the same kind of madness."

The America we grew up with is gone. We can't go into public buildings without emptying our pockets. Grandmothers can't board planes without suffering the indignities of searches. Cops are again running amok.

I have one simple yardstick for this fall's election. If they voted to renew the PATRIOT Act, they aint getting my vote. Party is irrelevant.

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« Reply #34 on: April 06, 2006, 06:32:01 AM »
Zorch you've probably never even read the patriot act.  Personally if we are pissing people off around the world then that's probably a good thing.  Winning popularity contests in places like Europe usually means you have to be a castrated spinless moron.

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« Reply #35 on: April 06, 2006, 06:38:38 AM »
What conclusions should reasonable people draw about a national urban sub-culture that is so enamored of the beauties of the neighboring states to the east that they feel compelled to fill it with condos and relocate there and, in the process, reforming the local culture to fit their own ideals?

Eastward Ho you gnarly dudes!

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« Reply #36 on: April 06, 2006, 06:47:02 AM »
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Drediock, that "joke" has been posted here in the OC at least eighteen thousand hundred times.


18,000 * 100 .....1,800,000

As of this posting, the O'club has 681,347 posts.

[joke on]Typical of pinko commie tree hugging saddam loving wimpy liberals to be so horribly wrong.[/joke off]
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« Reply #37 on: April 06, 2006, 06:54:22 AM »
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Bush is making us look a lot like Germany in 1938. I asked a friend who was there if he saw the parallel as well, and he said "Yes, it was the same kind of madness.".


and your "friend" was how old in '38?

my guess is that he was either too old or too young to answer that question accurately today - if your "friend" even exists ...

just another hysterical bush admin hater .. carry on

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« Reply #38 on: April 06, 2006, 06:59:34 AM »
Good old fashioned southerner.
"So live your life that the fear of death can never enter your heart.
Trouble no one about their religion;
respect others in their view, and demand that they respect yours.
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« Reply #39 on: April 06, 2006, 07:07:05 AM »
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I despise covert manipulation. The Bushies started it in the 2000 campaign, when they were hyping China and their half-dozen non-deliverable nukes as the next armageddon.


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When the DF-5 was first tested in September 1971, it had a range of 10,000 to 12,000 kms which allowed it to threaten the western portions of the United States. Beginning in 1983 the Chinese inaugurated the improved DF-5A, with an increased of over 13,000 km and a more accurate guidance system. The DF-5A upgrade increased the throw-weight of the system from 3,000 kg to 3,200 kg.
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China has a family of at least 14 boosters capable of launching payloads  into orbit.
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« Reply #40 on: April 06, 2006, 09:47:43 AM »
Just spent the last week in berkley... anyone who has would laugh their butts off at the idea of a social study comeing from beserkly.

Every study I have ever seen says that conservatives are much happier adults than liberals.   I believe that the commie study from berkley was a propoganda move by the left to denegrate those studies...  

Even if their was a grain of truth to it... would you rather be an unhappy child living in berkley and then grow up to be a happy adult or.... a passive socialist child in berkley who grew up to hate life?

Of course, how you are when you reach adulthood is the most important thing.   Does nash seem happy to you?   He has to leave his  country (canada) and pretend to be an American to find enough things to be unhappy about.

Like most liberals.... he searches out missery.

and zorch... LBJ was not really dumb... he was an evil socialist.  Most of the social problems we have today can be dumped right into his lap.

Carter was not a "nice guy"  nice guys don't ruin the lives of millions of people while claiming to want to help em... he was a buffoon and still is.

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« Reply #41 on: April 07, 2006, 01:58:43 AM »
Look, I realize that my reaction may look uppity to some of you guys. But whatever.

Some of the best jokes are rooted in cliches. An Irishman, a nun, and a lawyer walk into a bar... for example.

The problem with this here joke, at least to me, is that the cliche upon which this joke is based is complete BS. But first, lets take another look at the set up:

"You're walking down a deserted street with your wife and two small children. Suddenly, an Islamic Terrorist with a huge knife comes around the corner, locks eyes with you, screams obscenities, praises Allah, raises the knife, and charges at you."

... wherein the punch line is that a Democrat would be rendered so helpless by some absurd combination of confusion and weakness as to let his family die.

To me, that's not funny. Just stupid.

Where does the very idea of that even come from? How could something like that be accepted as just some slightly humorous but factual characteristic?

Jesus Christ...

Where did this "Weak Democrat" cliche come from in the first place? Seriously - it begs examination. For every tree hugging hippy you cart out, I can raise you two pocket protector sportin' limp wristed gits.

Folks, this crap started 30 years ago. Beginning with Goldwater, maturing with "Card carrying Liberals" under Reagan, continuing with the divisive and hateful language during Gingrich, and culminating in the explosion of total doofuses like Rush, Hannity, and Coulter... and the multitudes like them who prey upon ignorance and base emotion.

The fact is that the chances that a typical American family will become victims of a dagger weilding terrorist in some dark alley is probably as good as being hit by lightening. Three times.

So here's how I see it.

On the one hand, you've got a typical family walking down the street after a dinner out, and in all reality-world likelyhood, making it safely back to their car. On the other hand, you've got this other family whose dad is packin' heat, who also makes it safely back to their car.

If this was a test, who would you say was the Democratic family, and who was the Republican family? Chances are, you said that the family with the gun was the Republican family.

So what special brand of algebra would it take to come up with this "Brave Republicans" crap? How in the world does this make them tough? By what calculation could one use to suggest that they are strong? It's ridiculous.

They are merely scared.

Republicans fear God. Republicans fear immigrants. Republicans fear gays. Republicans fear science. Republicans fear sex. Republicans fear other countries. Republicans fear the law. Republicans fear big government. Republicans fear the lack of big government. Republicans fear education. Republicans fear the media. Republicans fear the liberty and freedom granted by the mother-effin' Constitution of the gawdamned United States of America.

Get your cameras out, 'cause this is the blissful marriage of complete and total marks and complete and total hucksters.

Republicans fear just about any damned thing they don't understand - which is just about everything.

You Democrats? Grow some balls will ya? Every dang "point" (or joke) that these guys try and make is founded upon a reality of their own making. That is to say, not real.

The more you let them get away with this fantasy crap, the more you prove them right.

Sometimes, you just gotta grab the bat and start swinging. Forget about the consequences - it makes you human.
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« Reply #42 on: April 07, 2006, 02:25:35 AM »
So you base your criticism of a BS cliche' of weak democrats on the BS cliche' of:
 
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Republicans fear God. Republicans fear immigrants. Republicans fear gays. Republicans fear science. Republicans fear sex. Republicans fear other countries. Republicans fear the law. Republicans fear big government. Republicans fear the lack of big government. Republicans fear education. Republicans fear the media. Republicans fear the liberty and freedom granted by the mother-effin' Constitution of the gawdamned United States of America.


okie dokie.
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« Reply #43 on: April 07, 2006, 02:26:30 AM »
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18,000 * 100 .....1,800,000

As of this posting, the O'club has 681,347 posts.

[joke on]Typical of pinko commie tree hugging saddam loving wimpy liberals to be so horribly wrong.[/joke off]
I do believe Nash was speaking... figuratively. And his last post of about 30 mins ago was excellent. I'm on the fringes here, being neither republican nor democrat and not being eligible to vote for either. But this whole Red/Blue pissing contest is just so much crap. Well done Nash for breaking it down, terd by terd, and showing us what rubbish it really is.

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« Reply #44 on: April 07, 2006, 02:29:38 AM »
I understood that, I just took the opportunity for a little levity.
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