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Offline Silat

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P 38 is ruined
« on: April 07, 2006, 02:11:44 PM »
The former p38 took some skill to master and now it is beyond hope. As of the last patch it has been made into a non competitive plane.
Its low speed characteristics are all but gone and it now does not respond well to control input at hi speed when flying at low levels.
Is this a mistake, a bug, or just a way to deneuter a plane that was never in the super plane catagory?
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Re: P 38 is ruined
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2006, 02:33:16 PM »
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Originally posted by Silat
The former p38 took some skill to master and now it is beyond hope. As of the last patch it has been made into a non competitive plane.
Its low speed characteristics are all but gone and it now does not respond well to control input at hi speed when flying at low levels.
Is this a mistake, a bug, or just a way to deneuter a plane that was never in the super plane catagory?


Pyro has acknowledged that the last patch introduced a bug. IE: Excessive drag when using full flaps.

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P 38 is ruined
« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2006, 03:49:44 PM »
I think is was a take from the Allied and give to the Luftwaffe....38 isn't the only Allied plane that got burned.
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P 38 is ruined
« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2006, 04:22:04 PM »
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Pyro has acknowledged that the last patch introduced a bug. IE: Excessive drag when using full flaps.


On all planes or just the P-38?
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P 38 is ruined
« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2006, 04:31:20 PM »
Maybe Allieds will need to learn how to really fly now...
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Re: P 38 is ruined
« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2006, 05:06:26 PM »
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Originally posted by Silat
The former p38 took some skill to master and now it is beyond hope. As of the last patch it has been made into a non competitive plane.
Its low speed characteristics are all but gone and it now does not respond well to control input at hi speed when flying at low levels.
Is this a mistake, a bug, or just a way to deneuter a plane that was never in the super plane catagory?



Honestly, it's not all that bad as some make it out to be.  If you were one of the P-38 flyers that rode full flaps in a turn fight then I would imagine the bug effects you more than those that would only engage full flaps when necessary and retract them afterwards.  

I'm going to post a couple of films I made the last few days that show as long as you don't ride full flaps and only use them when necessary and immediately retract them afterwards the bug isn't much if a hinderence.


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Offline Widewing

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« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2006, 08:39:05 PM »
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On all planes or just the P-38?


Just the P-38, Bruno.

"There is a bug in the last flap position that is making the drag go crazy high. That part is obvious when you take it from the 4th to the 5th notch and it acts like it just popped a drag chute.

Even after the bug in the last flaps position is fixed, it's still going to be undesirable to go to full flaps in a dogfight for all but a few unusual conditions." - Pyro

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P 38 is ruined
« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2006, 11:17:00 PM »
yes it is ruined
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Offline Karnak

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« Reply #8 on: April 08, 2006, 03:00:15 AM »
I think it is mostly likely far more accurate, or would be if not for the final flap position's drag bug.

Just because it doesn't allow you to play flapfest 2006 and have your seven ton fighter out turn three ton fighters with ease does not mean it is ruined.
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Offline killnu

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« Reply #9 on: April 08, 2006, 06:59:46 AM »
actually, it still out turns them... just got use your flaps even more than in Flapfest 2006.  ie...cant just have them full all the time, constantly adjusting them to what you need...so i guess its flapfest-o-rama 2006?

if nikis and spit16s/9 are the "three ton fighters" you speak of, yes, 38G will still out turn them.  

now im sure the pilots played a big part in it, but it was done nonetheless.
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Offline KgB

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« Reply #10 on: April 08, 2006, 11:35:23 AM »
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Originally posted by Karnak
I think it is mostly likely far more accurate, or would be if not for the final flap position's drag bug.

Just because it doesn't allow you to play flapfest 2006 and have your seven ton fighter out turn three ton fighters with ease does not mean it is ruined.

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P 38 is ruined
« Reply #11 on: April 10, 2006, 06:10:00 AM »
The P38s all still fly well - for a two engined bomber :D.



I was never able to fly them weel, and after the last patch... well, i guess ill stop trying. I cant even "outturn" a well flown Pony or Corsair, let alone Spitties... but then, that probably just me :).
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« Reply #12 on: April 10, 2006, 11:36:46 AM »
Fighting a F4U in a 38 in my oppinion is a bad idea anyway, the F4U will eat the 38 for diner any day.
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« Reply #13 on: April 10, 2006, 05:48:30 PM »
Not really. Depends on who is flying which plane and how well they know their ride. It is actually a good match up. I fly both, pretty often, as a matter of fact, and do okay in either, and I'm not even a good pilot.
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« Reply #14 on: April 11, 2006, 12:23:47 AM »
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Fighting a F4U in a 38 in my oppinion is a bad idea anyway, the F4U will eat the 38 for diner any day.


While the F4u is a good plane , i wouldn't say that its gunna eat a 38 anyday. They both have their strengths and weaknesses , but one isnt dominant over the other.
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