Yah just have no clue.
Would you accept that a long haired hippie wierdo freak could have his bellybutton summarily kicked for stepping into a goat roper bar in San Antonio circa 1972?
Yah. I got spit on. Almost as bad, the jeering. The 'fingers'. Food thrown at me. At LAX I got hit between the shoulder blades by a 3' tall waiting room ash tray. Had a filthy bathroom trash can dumped over the stall door in a bathroom on me at O'hare.
The uniform was a symbol. Like long hair was a symbol. A statement. People were into 'statements' back then. And Hanoi Jane, being a very vocal, very public mouthpiece of disrespect for servicemen was a symbol. A statement.
"If 200 people marched on Washington, they made it 200,000. We learned how to deal with the numbers. Of course, every protest, every anti-war speech made by a person such as McGovern, Jane Fonda, Galbraith, all of those only encouraged the Vietnamese, prolonged the war, worsened our condition and cost the lives of more Americans on the battlefield." - Robinson Risner, POW, 1965-1973, quoted in VIETNAM: A Television History Peace is at Hand (1968-1973) Transcript Nash, this vacant headed ***** killed GI's just as sure as if she pulled the trigger herself. The bile and disgust that wells up when I see either her or Kerry is still as acrid and sickening as it was 35 years ago. And I am not at all fooled by McCain.. who has run the gamit from hero to baffoon and political tool before my own eyes.
"In a debriefing following his years of imprisonment and torture in Vietnam, Arizona Sen. John McCain said he felt 'hatred' for antiwar activists like Jane Fonda who traveled to Hanoi, and feared 'becoming violent' if he met them, according to a never-released Pentagon report reviewed by Newsweek." - Dec. 19, 1999, /PRNewswire/.Henh. And, right here, right now.. the effectiveness of these 'tools' has spawned more.. well meaning guys that could actually postulate 'hey, did it ever really happen.. I mean.. is it documented??" Fer crissakes, are you that damn blind, dumb, and stupid; Nash?
"The GRU and KGB helped fund just about every antiwar movement and organization in America and abroad... What will be a great surprise to the American people is that GRU and KGB had a larger budget for antiwar propaganda in the United States than it did for economic and military support to the Vietnamese." - Russian defector Staanislov Lunev in 'Through the Eyes of the Enemy'(page 78).But oh, no.. we musn't condemn the actions of Hanoi Jane.. or Jane herself for doing what she thought was right.. it's not PC to hold people responsible over their entire lifetimes for what they did in their 20's.. after all, we've all done things as kids we'd never do now, right?
Really? What's the penalty for offering aid and comfort to the Enemy in this country these days? Clebrity?
ane Fonda made at least two trips to North Vietnam, the AA gun photos occurred at the end of her July 1972 trip. She traveled again to North Vietnam in Spring 1974 with Tom Hayden and their son Troy O'Donovan Garity. In telling about the 1974 visit, Jane Fonda acknowledged that she had been giving aid and comfort to the enemy, because she made a documentary film titled "Introduction to the Enemy". - Richard Rongstad, June 22, 2005.But, come on Hang.. after all; she was only one ditzy broad.. how much damage could she really do to guys still trying to stay alive in the land of bad things?
"Every day our leadership would listen to world news over the radio at 9:00 a.m. to follow the growth of the American antiwar movement. Visits to Hanoi by people like Jane Fonda and former Attorney General Ramsey Clark and ministers gave us confidence that we should hold on in the face of battlefield reverses. We were elated when Jane Fonda, wearing a red Vietnamese dress, said at a press conference that she was ashamed of American actions in the war, and that she would struggle along with us." - Bui Tin, Colonel, People's Army of Vietnam (PAVN) in Wall Street Journal article, Thursday August 3, 1995 (A8).Nash, that ***** is filth. Low order filth. It's disgusting just thinking that the people of this nation could possibly 'forgive' whats utterly unforgiveable.. she took from us Honor. She took from us the lives of friends trying to do their Duty for the men alongside them..
You just don't get it. And I am very, very sad to realize that if you don't get it; then neither does a very large number of other 'well meaning' people that could not, can not ever concieve of what it feels like to be betrayed the people of the country you served.
And in that, I think you are the lucky ones.
