ostwind armor

[JAWS2003]

If you kill the crew I think you can say you destroyed the tank. Large caliber cannons that were used for antitank duty can kill the crew inside the tank if the shell defeats the armor. High velocity armor piercing shells make a lot of shrapnel bouncing around inside the tank once they penetrated the armor.  That's what kills the crew.
 In my book if you kill the crew you can say you destroyed the tank. At least this is how it should be in AH.

[bj229r]

I hit an osti from dead 6 at 400 yards, RIGHT where turret meets hull--he drove away, sans main gun--hit him twice more later..STILL didnt kill him...then , as with ALL Tiger missions, a puke in a 110 egged me;

[EN4CER]

Sometimes your turret goes out with 1 ping and sometimes you get lucky and get an invincible turret with an Osti. Luck of the draw when it comes to Gving. They are a tough bugger to finish off though by plane. Best off bombing them or killing them by Tank.

[Meatwad]

speaking of chutes, I kept hearing this ping ping ping coming from somewhere. Turns out there was a guy that bailed out 1 foot from me trying to carjack my ostie. Well I tell you what, I backed over him and then ran his little skinny butt over

[viper215]

Originally posted by Kurt
I know the 30mm (err 37? I forget) in an osti will kill an osti in about 4 hits... Did it just the other night.

37

[Cr0ssEye]

I use a niki alot at gv spawns. It won't out right pop a panzer or otsi but it will usually immobilize them. I always see the pintle on top blow off. sometimes on a third pass i will get the kill, but it is rare.  on the other hand
give me a 109 with gondola guns or a 110, and u can kill a panzer in 2 or 3 passes provided u come in from his six shallow and slow. ( lots lead right in the engine and he will always be immobilized on the first pass)
I have yet to see a cannon that will kill a panzer or otsi in one pass.
Some say the IL2 will but for me the lack of vision absolutely rules this plane out. ( most of the time when GV's are pressing hard there r also enemy fighters involved (that why i stick with the NIKI and forget the IL2)

[DREDIOCK]

Originally posted by JAWS2003
If you kill the crew I think you can say you destroyed the tank. Large caliber cannons that were used for antitank duty can kill the crew inside the tank if the shell defeats the armor. High velocity armor piercing shells make a lot of shrapnel bouncing around inside the tank once they penetrated the armor.  That's what kills the crew.
 In my book if you kill the crew you can say you destroyed the tank. At least this is how it should be in AH.

And the likelyhood of killing the entire crew every time would be?
You would stand a better chance winning the lottery.
And while it may have happened form time to time it was the exeption and not the norm

Its just too bad it didnt very often happen that way or the allies would never have needed tanks or tank destroyers

As I said before. the very vast majority of the tanks killed were done so with bombs. Not gunfire from aircraft. Including HV AP rounds.
The tanks were more often abandoned by the crew for reasons I already mentioned.

When a crew abandons a tank it usually means at least some of them survived

[wipass]

There appears to be no logic in killing an osti, panzer, tiger or T34.

I would dearly love to know how the software decides "blow up GV", it would certainly make it easier to accept the loss.

wipass

[ghi]

Originally posted by DREDIOCK


As I said before. the very vast majority of the tanks killed were done so with bombs. Not gunfire from aircraft. s

Rudel used ju87 with bk37 against tanks
Rudel developed new tactics for Panzerstaffels. He found that the best way to knock out tanks was to hit them in the back (T-34's rear mounted engine and its cooling system did not permit the installation of heavier armor plating) or the side.

Rudel's personal victories as a ground-attack pilot were achieved exclusively against the Soviets,  include:

518+ Tanks
700 Trucks
150+ Flak and Artillery positions
9 Fighter/Ground Attack Aircraft
Hundreds of bridges, railway lines, bunkers, etc.
Battleship October Revolution, Cruiser Marat, and 70 landing craft





Shot down 32 times. he survieved the war

[Kaw1000]

Originally posted by ghi
Rudel used ju87 with bk37 against tanks
Rudel developed new tactics for Panzerstaffels. He found that the best way to knock out tanks was to hit them in the back (T-34's rear mounted engine and its cooling system did not permit the installation of heavier armor plating) or the side.

Rudel's personal victories as a ground-attack pilot were achieved exclusively against the Soviets,  include:

518+ Tanks
700 Trucks
150+ Flak and Artillery positions
9 Fighter/Ground Attack Aircraft
Hundreds of bridges, railway lines, bunkers, etc.
Battleship October Revolution, Cruiser Marat, and 70 landing craft





Shot down 32 times. he survieved the war

Now thats impressive!!!

[Lye-El]

Originally posted by ghi

Shot down 32 times. he survieved the war

Must have been bad modeling....Or he never crossed friendly lines.  

[Brenjen]

Good thing he wasn't flying in here...pilot wound everytime for me

[Slash27]

Originally posted by Cr0ssEye
I always see the pintle on top blow off.

When did this start happening?


HurriIID will disable a Panzer in one pass and sometimes explode him.

[jaxxo]

"I mean plane after plane load of 40mm from Hurri D's.... 5-6 spit 16 making multiple runs and emtying all ammo....LA's even dumping all thier rounds." sounds like a typical sorty in the ma for me

[ghi]

Originally posted by Lye-El
Must have been bad modeling....Or he never crossed friendly lines.  

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