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Offline Bronk

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« Reply #75 on: May 11, 2006, 11:08:58 AM »
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It wasn't harsh I don't think but rather straight to the point and Levi is right.  If LEPIG would spend more time learning how to fight in the plane of his choice and not worry what the other guy is flying, he'll have far more enjoyment of the game.  Basically, LEPIG wants to perk the planes he can't fight against.


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I think one of the worst things a new pilot can do is... jump from ac to ac.
Stick to 1 ac learn it and then move on.  Also picking an aircraft with gentle stall should be used.  They didn't stick new pilots in 51-Ds first day of flight training did they?


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« Reply #76 on: May 11, 2006, 11:30:07 AM »
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Yeah, but 10 minutes after the regular arena opened the limited one was empty. People vote with their feet, and even though I wish I could have fought that day (WORK....ugh) most everyone seemed to think the current MA was better.

Sigh.


I guess you don't remember ... when FesterMA was first introduced to the MA, the airfields on furball island were limited to the "early" plane set ... and it was MUCH fun.
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« Reply #77 on: May 11, 2006, 11:35:27 AM »
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I guess you don't remember ... when FesterMA was first introduced to the MA, the airfields on furball island were limited to the "early" plane set ... and it was MUCH fun.


I do remember that, and yea.. it was fun.

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« Reply #78 on: May 11, 2006, 11:43:46 AM »
wow slap.  didn't know that.  was grounded then.

that would be cool . . .

so 109e

spit and hurr1's

p40b

that it?

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« Reply #79 on: May 11, 2006, 11:49:19 AM »
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fair do's bighorn. i'd agree that it is heavily used and that it is fairly uber, but the general skill level of the guys that fly them means that they arent a massive threat. personally i dont see a big reason to perk it ust because of high usage, as the dweebs would all move into the next suitably uber ride. i think a plane should only ever really be perked for rarity/extreme speed, unless extreme curcumstances say otherwise.
Aye, I've never said to perk it :D
Agreed on overusage. Perking should be the last resort and only then when there's no other options left to save the gameplay.

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« Reply #80 on: May 11, 2006, 12:05:43 PM »
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wow slap.  didn't know that.  was grounded then.

that would be cool . . .

so 109e

spit and hurr1's

p40b

that it?


zeke too, few more iirc.
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« Reply #81 on: May 11, 2006, 12:15:19 PM »
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I guess you don't remember ... when FesterMA was first introduced to the MA, the airfields on furball island were limited to the "early" plane set ... and it was MUCH fun.



Think that was before my time.... I thought you were referring to the more recent "special event" when the MA was down and HTC gave the backup MA over to early rides like the P40. Looked forward to that, but it was empty when I got off work.


What you desribe sounds like ENORMOUS fun. Did HT ever explain why the limitation was reversed, so the bases had all planes eligible?
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« Reply #82 on: May 11, 2006, 12:17:18 PM »
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« Reply #83 on: May 11, 2006, 12:18:36 PM »
oh no not another perk these planes i cant kill them thread
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« Reply #84 on: May 11, 2006, 12:23:11 PM »
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Think thats being a little harsh, unless you are basically saying "Gee, retards, stop handicapping yourselves and jump in an EL gay or Spit like everyone else."  


My point is that people fly planes that these other planes clearly outmatch, and when they find that they can't defeat those planes with regularity they cry that HTC should perk the other planes.  If a person wants a challenge, then they should deal with the fact that what they fly is challenging; perking the planes that actually present challenges to these planes does what exactly?  It removes the challenge by removing the problem planes.

If these kinds of players want to reduce the skill needed to do well in poorly performing planes by perking all of the planes that perform well, why not just spare everyone and fly La7s or Spits instead?  That, to me, seems a far more elegant and simple solution.

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« Reply #85 on: May 11, 2006, 12:31:31 PM »
I'm still a newb here, but I can say that someone who joins in April and immediately starts *****ing about things they don't like in the game and crying that they're getting their bellybutton handed to them by better pilots is pretty much an idiot.

Like others have said, this game has a hell of a learning curve, and by blaming the GAME for your inability to play well or enjoy yourself, you're just advertising that you're an idiot.  Maybe the game's not for you, but to expect the game to change for you?  That's just dumb.

Write to Valve and tell them Half-Life 2 should be easier and the headcrabs shouldn't move so damn fast.  Or tell WoW that the other players should be nicer to you and all speak English.  You'll get the same result (actually maybe a little more ridicule).

This is not directed at anyone in particular, just in case you were wondering. It's totally a hypothetical situation, I mean, IF someone was to do this, that's what I'd think. Not that it's happened already or anything.

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« Reply #86 on: May 11, 2006, 12:36:07 PM »
Just disable the 3-cannon version of the La-7. Only a few hundred were built, and with 33% less lethality the HO'n'Go clique will be at a jousting disadvantage and would have to either "fight or switch."

I'd say to perk the 3-cannon variant, but no one would ever fly it then so may as well disable it.

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« Reply #87 on: May 11, 2006, 12:44:27 PM »
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My point is that people fly planes that these other planes clearly outmatch, and when they find that they can't defeat those planes with regularity they cry that HTC should perk the other planes.  If a person wants a challenge, then they should deal with the fact that what they fly is challenging; perking the planes that actually present challenges to these planes does what exactly?  It removes the challenge by removing the problem planes.

If these kinds of players want to reduce the skill needed to do well in poorly performing planes by perking all of the planes that perform well, why not just spare everyone and fly La7s or Spits instead?  That, to me, seems a far more elegant and simple solution.

-- Todd/Leviathn


I understand what you are saying, and if I was coming from the same view as you I'd totally agree.  But you (and I think everyone else lambasting this guy) are coming from the position of "oh man, you suck so you want the "good planes" perked because you can't kill them."  

I'm coming from the position of "Ok, so this guy is tired of seeing the same 5 planes over and over and over and over and over and over and over..."

I am pretty sure I've been consistant in my belief that either whats perked now should be unperked, or the "top tier" planes should be perked simply because the difference in performance between the top tier planes and the current perk planes is smaller than the difference between the first and second tier.  In fact, the difference is ..  none.  The Spit 16 and La-7 dominate the "lesser planes" just as much as the F4U-4 or Tempest would, so there is no real reason to have any prop plane perked.  

You can impugn my "skill" if you want to, and say that I only want the best planes perked because I can't kill them... but I think we both know that is nonsense.
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« Reply #88 on: May 11, 2006, 12:45:15 PM »
Maybe if it was a low perk plane like the TA-152...  it's not all or nothing.

Haven't figured out why the TA-152 is perked, is it just to keep n00bs out of it so they won't freak out when they rip the wings off on a 3G turn?

I like the LA-7, maybe down the ammo load so the HO isn't really a smart optionl? Dunno.

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« Reply #89 on: May 11, 2006, 01:23:31 PM »
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I think one of the worst things a new pilot can do is... jump from ac to ac.
Stick to 1 ac learn it and then move on.  Also picking an aircraft with gentle stall should be used.  They didn't stick new pilots in 51-Ds first day of flight training did they?


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I agree.  One should gain experience before trying out new planes.  Helps a lot IMO.


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