Plead to Htc Perk these planes

[Stang]

Originally posted by Ack-Ack
I agree.  One should gain experience before trying out new planes.  Helps a lot IMO.


ack-ack

P38 would be a bad choice to learn, unless he's got a thing for dying.

[Bronk]

Originally posted by Urchin
I understand what you are saying, and if I was coming from the same view as you I'd totally agree.  But you (and I think everyone else lambasting this guy) are coming from the position of "oh man, you suck so you want the "good planes" perked because you can't kill them."  

I'm coming from the position of "Ok, so this guy is tired of seeing the same 5 planes over and over and over and over and over and over and over..."

I am pretty sure I've been consistant in my belief that either whats perked now should be unperked, or the "top tier" planes should be perked simply because the difference in performance between the top tier planes and the current perk planes is smaller than the difference between the first and second tier.  In fact, the difference is ..  none.  The Spit 16 and La-7 dominate the "lesser planes" just as much as the F4U-4 or Tempest would, so there is no real reason to have any prop plane perked.  

You can impugn my "skill" if you want to, and say that I only want the best planes perked because I can't kill them... but I think we both know that is nonsense.

Urchin I reread his post and made a second reply.
The guy is new to the game and clearly likes the american iron (specifically the 38 by the times killed in it).
I  feel the 38 is one of the hardest planes to master especially for new player. Compound it by the anecdotal stories of this AC you'd think the thing was untouchable.
 Now the new player  is in hard plane to fly but thinks he is in the greatest thing since sliced bread. What happens when he starts getting his rear shot off? I'll tell you what you get.. The FM is porked , perk everything that kills me threads.
I think Ledpig is a new guy that would benefit from some TA sessions.
Also I think it would be a benefit if he'd get use to the game flying an "easy" AC. Once you get the basics it becomes much more easy to transition to another ac .
Once again I am no upper tier AH pilot but I know what works.
There is a reason drivers don't start out in F1 and the same applies here.

Bronk

[Brenjen]

Glad you realize that it was your fault ... so basically, your reasons for wanting to perk certain planes is moot for the reasons that I gave above ... u would have died just the same, regardless of what the other guy was flying.

 What the hell are you going on about slapshot? Are you mental? Jesus Christ; some of you guys are so retarded I don't see how you can get out of bed in the morning.


Edit: Nevermind; I see you're a BK. I didn't realize you were just trolling, I thought you were really that stupid. Since it is PLAINLY obvious I am against perking them. Do you guys attend troll classes or something?

[Edbert1]

Perks were 1st introduced to keep one plane from amounting to 50%+ of the sorties flown, at that time it was the F4U-1C. Back then we only had a few planes and the Chog was everywhere. Now we have dozens of aircraft, and although the Spit/Nik/ElGay still equal about 40% of the sorties flown it is nothing like it was back when the sky was full of blue-winged hizooka spewers.

I am in full agreement with proposals like the age-old NPA. Or to make it simpler perk everything that saw combat after 1942. But Hitech has been quite clear in the past that these thoughts will NOT be implemented so save your virtual breath.

The future of this game is all about getting new customers, and with about 5,000 people paying to play every month (do the math) you can see that the $$$ speaks louder than any BBS posters ever will. Nobody will subscribe if they come to AH to fly "the cadillac of the skies" as claimed by the history channel and advertised on cable-TV and find out they need to earn points flying slow-moving or poorly armed peices of crap first. I suggested once that all new subscribers get 1,000 free perks when they subscribe but again those ideas are dead.

[Dead Man Flying]

Originally posted by Urchin
I am pretty sure I've been consistant in my belief that either whats perked now should be unperked, or the "top tier" planes should be perked simply because the difference in performance between the top tier planes and the current perk planes is smaller than the difference between the first and second tier.  In fact, the difference is ..  none.  The Spit 16 and La-7 dominate the "lesser planes" just as much as the F4U-4 or Tempest would, so there is no real reason to have any prop plane perked.

If HTC perks planes because of their overabundance, they merely create a new set of planes that dominate the arena and become overabundant.  For example, if HTC were to make all planes perk free, what sorts of planes do you expect to see dominating the arena?  I'm guessing that 262s, Tempests, and 163s would abound.  When you perk those, La7s and Spits abound.  When you perk those, Typhoons, P-47s, and P-51s abound.  When you perk those, P-38s, P-40s, and Ki-61s abound, etc etc ad nauseum.

-- Todd/Leviathn

[scottydawg]

Rotating availability for certain planes might be cool?

[Dead Man Flying]

Originally posted by Brenjen
Edit: Nevermind; I see you're a BK. I didn't realize you were just trolling, I thought you were really that stupid.

No, Slapshot actually is that stupid.

-- Todd/Leviathn

[Viper9th]

Originally posted by 2bighorn
I'm just about giving up on all guys with words 'viper', 'ace', 'hell', 'krusher' etc in their callsign...

Don't blame me it was my lame bro who made the account

[SlapShot]

Originally posted by Brenjen
What the hell are you going on about slapshot? Are you mental? Jesus Christ; some of you guys are so retarded I don't see how you can get out of bed in the morning.


Edit: Nevermind; I see you're a BK. I didn't realize you were just trolling, I thought you were really that stupid. Since it is PLAINLY obvious I am against perking them. Do you guys attend troll classes or something?

Yes I am a BK ... but I can assure you that I am neither stupid or trolling.

You presented 2 stories of sorties that you had where a P-51 and a La-7 killed you, trying to say that if they were perked, you would feel a whole lot better being killed by them if they were perked.

Here ... let me remind you ...

"Both instances were all my fault & it wouldn't have mattered to me if they were flying those planes after paying the few perks they would cost when they killed me."

So it's not so PLAINLY obvious that you are against perking them.

[SlapShot]

Originally posted by Dead Man Flying
No, Slapshot actually is that stupid.

-- Todd/Leviathn

Bite me ya tool !!!!  

[E25280]

Originally posted by SlapShot
Yes I am a BK ... but I can assure you that I am neither stupid or trolling.

You presented 2 stories of sorties that you had where a P-51 and a La-7 killed you, trying to say that if they were perked, you would feel a whole lot better being killed by them if they were perked.

Here ... let me remind you ...

"Both instances were all my fault & it wouldn't have mattered to me if they were flying those planes after paying the few perks they would cost when they killed me."

So it's not so PLAINLY obvious that you are against perking them.

He presented two stories where he died to the planes in question, and clearly stated the only reason he died to them was due to his own mistake, not because the P-51 or La-7 are "uber".

He also said (first off, I might add, where you for some reason omitted during your tirade-reply):

I happen to like the spitfire. The Spit-14 is my favorite, followed closely by the Seafire. I don't like to spend perks, so it's a rare occasion you will see me in a perked ride. That being said, what's wrong with flying Spitfires? Or La's for that matter. I see more LA-7's than anything else unless there is a CV around, but so what?

So I am not sure where you got your panties in a wad thinking he advocated perking anything.

[E25280]

Originally posted by Edbert1
Perks were 1st introduced to keep one plane from amounting to 50%+ of the sorties flown, at that time it was the F4U-1C. Back then we only had a few planes and the Chog was everywhere. Now we have dozens of aircraft, and although the Spit/Nik/ElGay still equal about 40% of the sorties flown it is nothing like it was back when the sky was full of blue-winged hizooka spewers.

Curious Edbert -- is there a place to find number of sorties each plane made?  I ask because in another thread Stang said something to the effect that 50% of planes were La-7s or Spit XVIs.  I used kill / death percentages and came up with less than 17% - add Niki and it would be about 25% or less of fighters, i.e. after removing all bombers and GVs from the mix.

But, in "pure" terms, kills and deaths are not sorties, but they should correlate closely.  Hence my question about if sortie info is available.

But I just thought of another question (in general, not just to Edbert) -- is the perception of how common La-7s and Spit XVIs are possibly due to area of the map frequented?  I am thinking "furball" areas vs "win-the-war" areas, but it could also be Knight vs Rook area, or something else entirely (early evening vs late evening vs during the day??). Point of my question, in my perception (and numbers seem to back) they are not quite as common as many apparently believe.

[Ack-Ack]

Originally posted by Stang
P38 would be a bad choice to learn, unless he's got a thing for dying.

Really?  Glad I don't die to often in it otherwise I'd probably be whining to perk the La7 too =)



ack-ack

[Ack-Ack]

Originally posted by scottydawg
Rotating availability for certain planes might be cool?

Rolling plane set is not the way to go.  


ack-ack

[Kermit de frog]

Originally posted by Ack-Ack
Rolling plane set is not the way to go.  


ack-ack

Why not akak?