How can anyone in their right mind..

[straffo]

Originally posted by Brenjen
I have never had the opportunity to discuss the general state of being alive on this planet with a french citizen, I have to admit, seeing the damage some nice french lads did to the war cemetary in normandy & reading "English, come & dig up your trash" painted on the memorials really put me off. It might not have put a burr under my saddle had I not seen the police & the average joe onlookers laughing about it.

Do you know we have a  "graveyard vandalism" course at school ?

[Hap]

many folks don't have a right mind.  see the poll  on using nuclear weapons in the middle east.

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[storch]

well it's about time....another bash thread.  goody, I'll keep a close watch on the board today.  my cousin is in from belgium again she brought another case of beer with her and also a friend.  saw, if all italians are bananas and this girl has a beard then..............

[SOB]

GEORGE BOOSH DOESN'T CARE ABOUT BLACK, ERR MEXICAN PEOPLE!!!

AMERICAN NATIONALISTS ARE NAZIS!!!

CINCO DE MAYO IS A PLOT BY EVIL MEXICANS TO GET US DRUNK AND HAPPY!!! THOSE BASTARDS!!!

FRENCHIES HATE DEAD AMERICANS AND GRAVESTONES AND THEY REALLY REALLY HATE THESE CANS!!!  STAY AWAY FROM THESE CANS!!!

banana IS ITALIAN!!!  WHERE THE HELL DID banana GET TO???

BELGIANS ARE JUST FRENCHIES WITH CHOCOLATE!!!

[Saintaw]

TOB, slowly step back from the coffee machine.. have a choklit instead!

[Holden McGroin]

Originally posted by Curval
It isn't a celebratory song about dominion at all, its about having a kick arsed navy that DEFENDS against tyranny:

So the words "Britannia rules the waves" has no parallell at all with "Deutchland uber alles"

One has to do with being superior so that the nation can defend itself...  

Deutschland, Deutschland über alles,
Über alles in der Welt,
Wenn es stets zu Schutz und Trutze

Germany, Germany above all
Above everything in the world
When, always, for protection and defense

[straffo]

Originally posted by SOB
FRENCHIES ATE DEAD AMERICANS AND GRAVESTONES AND THEY REALLY REALLY HATE THESE CANS!!!  STAY AWAY FROM THESE CANS!!!

Had to correct a typo



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[Curval]

Originally posted by Holden McGroin
So the words "Britannia rules the waves" has no parallell at all with "Deutchland uber alles"

One has to do with being superior so that the nation can defend itself...  

Deutschland, Deutschland über alles,
Über alles in der Welt,
Wenn es stets zu Schutz und Trutze

Germany, Germany above all
Above everything in the world
When, always, for protection and defense

Well, lets see.

If you put it into context, Germany embarked on a war of conquest in the late 30s.  They rolled up the whole of Europe but then were stopped, primarily due to Britain "ruling the waves".

As Beet1e points out it is now illegal to sing the German National Anthem in the way it was sung in the 1930s....no such law exists in Britain.

So...your parallell is a bit off.

[Holden McGroin]

Each song has nationalism, speaks of defense, and of dominion.  The songs are similar in attitude so the parallel is astonishingly close.

I was just comparing the songs, but if you wish to extend the parallel to national behavior, the British just started their conquest a few centuries earlier. Britains ability to rule the waves also allowed for the domination of indiginous people worldwide, the establishment of the African Slave trade, the importation of opium to China, ... I'm sure I can come up with some other unsavory things.

Every country has it's skeleton closet.

[Curval]

Oh really?  Your whole purpose in posting your first reply to Beet1e was all about the song...no jab at him or the UK regarding Britain's "celebration" of dominance.  It was just about song lyrics.  Rrrrright.

You should at least get your facts straight about Britain's role in the slave trade.  It was in fact established long before great Britain ever became involved by the Arabs...commonly known as the Trans Saharan slave trade.  The Atlantic slave trade was established by the Portugese, but was later dominated by Great Britain as they controlled the seas.  It was also destroyed by Great Britain's navy after slavery was outlawed.

You are right though...every country has its skeletons.  The US, for example, hasn't exactly got a stellar record for its treatment of the Native Indians.

[Bronk]

Curval tell it to the Zulu. I believe the Brits were the invader there.
That wasn't even in the same hemisphere . What business did they have there?



Bronk

Edit: Not trying to start a pissing contest. I have nothing against the Brits but It wasn't called the British "EMPIRE" for nothing. They didn't get it or hold on to it by being nice.

[indy007]

since people keep talking about the songs...

wasn't Yankee Doodle a brit song about an American dressing very ... uh... effeminately?

Euro nationalist songs talk about taking over the world, defending seas, honoring their country...

ours talks about dressing in drag.

nice.

[Ack-Ack]

Originally posted by DiabloTX
I still find it funny that Cinco de Mayo is shoved down our throats.  You think they celebrate the 4th of July in Mexico?

Ahh...ignorance is bliss...


Cinco de Mayo is not a national holiday in Mexico, never was. Just like the Battle of Bunker Hill is not a national holiday in the US, just a footmarked day on the calender.  Cinco de Mayo is a US creation by the alchohol companies to sell more booze, just like St. Paddy's Day is.


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[Ack-Ack]

Originally posted by mora
I think I know what you mean, but they are not liberals. Americans seem to have an entirly own definition for a "liberal". Just call them leftist like everyone else.

What's funny is that for a time "classic liberal" was used to refer to first the Whigs and then later the Republican party.   The term took on a new meaning during FDR's administration.


ack-ack

[Holden McGroin]

Originally posted by Curval
but was later dominated by Great Britain as they controlled the seas.

So you agree with me on periferal subjects of this thread. Thank you.
 
Even though you doubt it, my original point was to pick a British Nationalist song because the Beet1e, being a british national, brought up the german song.  I doubt that if I had chosen a nationalistic song of Thailand it would have made my point better.