How can anyone in their right mind..

[Curval]

Originally posted by Bronk
Curval tell it to the Zulu. I believe the Brits were the invader there.
That wasn't even in the same hemisphere . What business did they have there?



Bronk

Edit: Not trying to start a pissing contest. I have nothing against the Brits but It wasn't called the British "EMPIRE" for nothing. They didn't get it or hold on to it by being nice.

Every single western country of any significance during that time in world history was trying to expand their EMPIRES.

Fact is even you guys only seem to remember Britian's Empire because they were simply the best at it, mostly because their navy kicked booty all over the globe.

What business did they have there?  BUSINESS.  Money, moola, gold man!!!  Same reason the Dutch went there...the same reason the Belgians were in Rwanda and the Congo , the French were there too..etc etc etc.  Don't you read any history?

[storch]

Originally posted by Ack-Ack
Ahh...ignorance is bliss...


Cinco de Mayo is not a national holiday in Mexico, never was. Just like the Battle of Bunker Hill is not a national holiday in the US, just a footmarked day on the calender.  Cinco de Mayo is a US creation by the alchohol companies to sell more booze, just like St. Paddy's Day is.


ack-ack

that would be one beer importer namely gambrinus importers, the people who bring you that weak corona all the metrosexuals prefer.  It was a brilliant advertising campaign.

[Ack-Ack]

Yep, was sheer marketing genius to sell what is otherwise crappy beer.



ack-ack

[Bronk]

[Every single western country of any significance during that time in world history was trying to expand their EMPIRES

Fact is even you guys only seem to remember Britian's Empire because they were simply the best at it, mostly because their navy kicked booty all over the globe.

What business did they have there?  BUSINESS.  Money, moola, gold man!!!  Same reason the Dutch went there...the same reason the Belgians were in Rwanda and the Congo , the French were there too..etc etc etc.  Don't you read any history





So when everyone else does it it's OK. Thanks.. I'll remember that.

Nope, I only brought up the Brit thing cause you seem to want to point fingers at the US.

Ya I read history . So can i now say that the these early Europeans were no better than the nazis? They were after the same thing land, treasure, natural resources. They , just like early EMPIRES attacked weaker countries.

It is interesting that you find British empire building OK . Just don't let anyone else try it though.

Bronk

[Airscrew]

Originally posted by Curval
Beet....he got that definition from the NRA web-site methinks.

Webster's
na·tion·al·ism    Devotion to the interests or culture of one's nation.
The belief that nations will benefit from acting independently rather than collectively, emphasizing national rather than international goals.
Aspirations for national independence in a country under foreign domination.

Nationalism
n 1: love of country and willingness to sacrifice for it [syn: patriotism] 2: the doctrine that your national culture and interests are superior to any other [ant: multiculturalism, internationalism] 3: the aspiration for national independence felt by people under foreign domination 4: the doctrine that nations should act independently (rather than collectively) to attain their goals [ant: internationalism]

Main Entry:   chauvinism
Part of Speech:   noun
Definition:   devotion
Synonyms:   bellicism, fanatical patriotism, jingoism, Nationalism
Antonyms:   broad-mindedness, impartiality, liberality, objectivity

[Curval]

You need some historical context there Bronk.

I made one point to Holden about the US (who was pointing the finger at Britain for abuse of indigenous peoples) by mentioning the US treatment of Native Indians.  Now your panties are in a bunch because I am somehow attacking the US.  lol  So defensive.

...and by the by

The only reason the US wasn't out Empire building "back in the day" is because...well...there wasn't a country called the United States of America at that time.

Toodles.

[Ack-Ack]

We had a quasi-empire after the Spanish-American War when we took possession of quite a few Spanish colonies and territories like Guam, Philippines, Cuba, Puerto Rico, etc...



ack-ack

[Airscrew]

Originally posted by Curval
The only reason the US wasn't out Empire building "back in the day" is because...well...there wasn't a country called the United States of America at that time.
Toodles.

Actually by time we were ready to build an Empire most of the good properties had already been taken.   We did manage to get Hawaii, the Phillipines, and Puerto Rico though

[Curval]

Fair points ack ack and Airscrew.

[Ack-Ack]

actually my posts was kind of aimed at those whining about the "brutality" of the British Empire.  I guess they missed the history class when they talked about how we "pacified" the Moros in the Philippines.



ack-ack

[Brenjen]

So, by the action of a few *****heads that turnedup graves ... all the french are guilty.

 Well Saintaw, read the ENTIRE post next time instead of selectively inserting words into my mouth through insinuation.

 I said; "It might not have put a burr under my saddle had I not seen
the police & the average joe onlookers laughing about it."

 If it were just the pieces of dung that wrote it & the people they talked to about it & that were loitering about weren't snickering about it I wouldn't have taken so much offense. I saw some French citizens who were alive when those men were killed & now have their country back because of their sacrifice, interviewed; & they were vocal about their displeasure & not one of them were laughing about it.

 I think the United States & Great Britain should have demanded the people responsible be extradited & tried in our courts. Those graveyards are supposed to be sovereign U.S. & British soil & therefore those criminals are subject to our laws.

[Airscrew]

Originally posted by Curval
Fair points ack ack and Airscrew.

Ack-Ack.  My point was more to head off those that may have forgotten from history class that the US did practice Imperialism in a manner of speaking

[DiabloTX]

Originally posted by Ack-Ack
Ahh...ignorance is bliss...


Cinco de Mayo is not a national holiday in Mexico, never was. Just like the Battle of Bunker Hill is not a national holiday in the US, just a footmarked day on the calender.  Cinco de Mayo is a US creation by the alchohol companies to sell more booze, just like St. Paddy's Day is.


ack-ack

Yeah, you're right, ignorance is bliss.  I forgot about all of the beer company sponsored parades and classes taught in our schools about the "historical" significance of the 5th of May to the United States of America for an event that happened in the country of Mexico that had absolutely nothing to do with the U.S.  

Besides, you know as well as I know that just about everyone in this country or in Mexico doesn't need an excuse to guzzle beer.  But I'll buy the "beer company's did it" excuse because, well, it's an excuse to go drink a beer.

[Ack-Ack]

Originally posted by DiabloTX
Yeah, you're right, ignorance is bliss.  I forgot about all of the beer company sponsored parades and classes taught in our schools about the "historical" significance of the 5th of May to the United States of America for an event that happened in the country of Mexico that had absolutely nothing to do with the U.S.  

Can't blame Mexico for what is written in US history books and goes to show how incredibly successful the marketing campaign was for a beer distributor.


ack-ack

[DiabloTX]

Originally posted by Ack-Ack
Can't blame Mexico for what is written in US history books and goes to show how incredibly successful the marketing campaign was for a beer distributor.


ack-ack

Wasn't written in any book that I studied.  I still doubt the beer company marketing campaign though.  Links pls?