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Offline AKDejaVu

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« Reply #45 on: October 24, 2001, 12:45:00 PM »
http://www.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/meast/10/24/meast/index.html

Mention is made of someone being killed in Bethlehem.  

 
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Palestinian sources said in other fighting on the West Bank three Palestinians had been killed at Tul Karem, one at Abu Dis, and one at Bethlehem.

...IDF spokesman said IDF forces moved into the village because "the cell that was responsible for the killing of Ze'evi is from this village, and those who are responsible for the killing of an Israeli officer.

"All those who were killed during the incursion are members of Hamas, PFLP and the Tanzim," the spokesman said, adding five Palestinians were killed and one was "in an unknown condition."

A report that is slightly off kilter is this one:

 
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In other developments, Jewish settlers fired on a car filled with six Palestinians who were on their way to work from Yatta, the Palestine Red Crescent Society and Palestinian security sources told CNN.

All six were wounded, with two of them critically injured with gunshot wounds to the head.

This is one I'd like to see a little more info on.  It just doesn't add up.

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« Reply #46 on: October 24, 2001, 01:11:00 PM »
Not to be picky, but Judeism is a religion not a race.
As such, anti-semite is a bigot but not racist.

Udie, nazi thing is running tad old. Might want to came up with some new insults...  :D

MrFish, you're streotyping. Not nice.

Heyya Anton, didn't know you hanged out here.

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« Reply #47 on: October 24, 2001, 01:41:00 PM »
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Originally posted by fd ski:

MrFish, you're streotyping. Not nice.



You do it all the time in regards to those that practice faith in God. Pot calling kettle!

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« Reply #48 on: October 24, 2001, 01:48:00 PM »
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Originally posted by fd ski:
Not to be picky, but Judeism is a religion not a race.
As such, anti-semite is a bigot but not racist.

Udie, nazi thing is running tad old. Might want to came up with some new insults...     :D



 This coming from somebody who called me a nazi just 2 days ago!!!!    :D j/k Yeah, I deleted the nazi references from my posts, hangtime got me thinking that I may actually offend/hurt somebody else besides the fish.  He's defenately a bigot though, to me a racist is a bigot is a racist, there is no diference.  Got to admit though, it takes big nuts to say something like he did in a somewhat public forum like this. The word idiot comes to mind too.

 This is to the fish,

 I don't know if you speak or understand arabic and I'm sure I'll misspell this as I don't read or write arabic so these words are spelled phoneticly in English....

 Telhasthese -and- airi feek  (way misspelled)

  And in pharsie (that's Iranian in case you didn't know fish)

 Keer to kun et -or- r am to dan esh madar et (that last one was REAL BAD if I said it in English I'd probobly get banned or beat up real bad hehe)   I could say am to dan et! but that one is very gross.  Just so you know, when an Iranian cusses you out, he does it in a VERY discriptive way    :)  Sorry to anybody those offended...


 Salom chitori

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« Reply #49 on: October 24, 2001, 02:39:00 PM »
Mrfish you can allways amaze me with your stupidity.
You`re trying to spread your racist BS thinking it doesn`t sound racist....lol
I really wonder wich drycleaner You take your black SS uniform to? Maybe some relative of your chinese wife  huh?

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« Reply #50 on: October 24, 2001, 02:59:00 PM »
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Originally posted by Nashwan:
It's time America called in all the favours it has done for Israel, and demanded a more concilliatory approach to the Palestinians. If not, Israel is going to cost America dear.

Finally someone making sense!

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« Reply #51 on: October 24, 2001, 04:13:00 PM »
hey all you moral superiors, i heard someone called an arab a 'raghead' in another thread!   :eek:  i am just outraged!  that nazi racist bigot! well what are you waiting for go get him!?

oh wait, that's socially acceptable. never mind - stick to the easy shots. let's revisit your 'my fellow americans' thread, udie where you called for all those chinese commies to be burned.

hipocrites.

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« Reply #52 on: October 24, 2001, 04:38:00 PM »
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hey all you moral superiors, i heard someone called an arab a 'raghead' in another thread!    :eek:  i am just outraged!  that nazi racist bigot! well what are you waiting for go get him!?

oh wait, that's socially acceptable. never mind - stick to the easy shots. let's revisit your 'my fellow americans' thread, udie where you called for all those chinese commies to be burned.

hipocrites.


 hey bigot boy, could you do me a favor and go find the thread?  I don't remember what your talking about and am too lazy to go look for something that a bigot boy tells me about.  

 Face it, your a racist bigot.  I for one am personaly happy that I found this out so that I will be sure not to associate with you i the future, oops I'm showing prejudice.   You gotta admit though I used a pretty nice rope-a-dope manuver to get you out in the open didn't I?  :D

 Keer am to dan et LOL!

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« Reply #53 on: October 24, 2001, 04:48:00 PM »
shouldn't you be snaking a toilet or gettin' a fresh bag o' chaw or baiting a worm something?

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« Reply #54 on: October 24, 2001, 04:52:00 PM »
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Originally posted by mrfish:
shouldn't you be snaking a toilet or gettin' a fresh bag o' chaw or baiting a worm something?

 nah,  I've already caught enough... cough... cough... fish   :D

 ooooh that's cheesey, but I'm laughing so it must be funny   :)

U

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 ahhh man I just noticed I lost my 4 star rating.  Only 2 more votes though. I wonder were you one of the ones that voted me down mrfish?  :)

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« Reply #55 on: October 24, 2001, 05:01:00 PM »
no actually i voted you down ages ago for some other simpleton comment you made about the chinese.

my views have never been a closed book colombo - if anyoneone wants to know anything all they have to do is ask. i won't hide it like you.

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« Reply #56 on: October 24, 2001, 05:07:00 PM »
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no actually i voted you down ages ago for some other simpleton comment you made about the chinese.

my views have never been a closed book colombo - if anyoneone wants to know anything all they have to do is ask. i won't hide it like you.

 Ok well this was fun for a while, but I guess I'm done with you.  have a nice night and I'll yell at you tomaorow  ;) ya filthy bigot  :)

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« Reply #57 on: October 24, 2001, 05:11:00 PM »
lol 'nite tex

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« Reply #58 on: October 24, 2001, 05:38:00 PM »
Seems the term NAZI is being thrown around alot. Get this Straight, My Grandmother was a NAZI Party Member in WWII, She WAS a NAZI.
 Unless you guys are party members, Yur only wannabes.  :D
 Please return now to this absolutely useless discussion.

 Ping "Who is Not a NAZI"
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« Reply #59 on: October 24, 2001, 06:11:00 PM »
I went for a long walk this afternoon.. I was/am upset; I'm worried as hell; and I'm tired. There's anguish all around me.. and my pain amounts to squat compared to the other folks I know, and that somehow makes me feel even worse.

They found a friend of mine at ground zero the other day.. Just his legs. His wife said to me last night "He didn't want to be cremated... we've already had the memorial service... now what do I do??..."

Kinda like a usual day here lately in the shadow of the Big Apple.

Here on this BBS we all tend to get comfy with sterotypes and labels. I'm as guilty or more so than the next guy.. I was under the impression this is a place to blow off some steam, maybe get a laff, maybe make a point, spread some light; help somebody open a closed door in their minds.

It should not be the place where friends become enemys.

I often wonder and marvel at the power of the demos[/b].. that barking mob of society, the enraged knee-jerk social voice that reacts so visciously to that which it cannot grasp or understand.

So, I'll try one time myself to put aside my social indoctrination, my sterotypical gladhanding and grandstanding and just say what I feel.

I'm not a nazi, a jew hater, a bigot or a commie. I'm not even a democrat, or a republican, or a christian or a muslim.

I'm an American.

I can read, write, (but spell poorly) formulate opinions, check facts, obfuscate data I don't like, spotlight the stuff I do, make my points based on insight, imagery or imagination... feel pride in my fellow americans, feel pain for them; laugh at them, holler for their heads when they diddly up.

I can and do understand that I am rarely right, grumpily wrong; stubbon prideful and pigheaded..

Just like most of you.

I count most of you as friends, all of you as virtual neighbors; yer here in my virtual livingroom now, as we spar and parry ideas and inuendo...

Right now; this very minute, the fate of this lil world rests in hands no more competent or capable than all of yours and mine. There really ain't that much room left anymore for raw hatred for a race or sub-type, or religious faction or geographical group. Yet the hate is growing; labels are being slung like stones, dreams are dying, and folks are preparing to slaughter their neighbors..

Yes, I believe that Israel has contributed greatly to the current mideast crisis.. it elected what amounts to a hardline government with an agenda that includes an about face on the Camp David Accords and has stymied commerce and peace with its neighbors. Belligerance does not broker peace.

Yes, I've seen my government do some pretty dumb toejam itself... selling arms to Iraq, abandoning people it vowed to protect, nations it promised to support.. again and again.

No, I do not believe mrfish is a nazi. I believe he has identified a key point tho...  we all respond to how we are treated, and we respond with respect to those who treat us with respect.

America and Americans are no less 'racist' than Japan or Israel or China or Pakistan or India or Libya or France or Saudi Arabia... or Russia.

So.. I guess i'm just trying to see thru the roadkill sterotypes now, and looking at what needs to be done..

"End terror and terrorist regimes, by any and all means expedient."  Thats still job ONE, issue ONE.

In order for that to be possible in our still ideological racist world, we need to get to an accord amongst ourselves, a calm whereby ALL Americans and ALL nations regardless of religion, race or creed loudly and with definite indignation demand a stop to Israel's state sponsored violence in Palestine... a stop to Palestines state sponsored violence in Israel.

I am not placing blame on either set of players in the middle east... when a fire starts; you don't affix blame. You put out the fire. Or it spreads...

mrfish.. the demos tried and convicted Socrates for speaking the truth. Don't take the hemlock cure pal. after he was gone, the truth was still there, but Socrates wasn't.
 
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