GV game in AH sucks...

[Bronk]

Originally posted by Simaril





Just a thought....

Is this behavior any different from that of the awful griefers who kill FHs to spoil other people's fun?

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Bronk

[Tilt]

Spawn camping is a problem......................

I think a spawn road would be a little more realistic............an interactive clipboard map (you get it when in gv's) where you spawn at the point you click on.........a bit like selecting a  WP for a ship, except you jump there............

You then spawn to the nearest point on one of the roads............fuel appropriately depleted at the arena FB rate.

If you have chosen a point that is camped then you simply spawn further back next time.

[Bruno]

Originally posted by Tilt
Spawn camping is a problem......................

I think a spawn road would be a little more realistic............an interactive clipboard map (you get it when in gv's) where you spawn at the point you click on.........a bit like selecting a  WP for a ship, except you jump there............

You then spawn to the nearest point on one of the roads............fuel appropriately depleted at the arena FB rate.

If you have chosen a point that is camped then you simply spawn further back next time.

You could have GV spawn range set like radar. This way in events or in other arenas the CMs can set the best 'spawn range' from home base that best suits the set up he is trying to run.

On the clipboard map when you select to 'view GV waypoints' it would show a circle like the radar range circle. Then you could pick any where within that circle to spawn using the mouse pointer and left click.

This will eliminate spawn camping. However, with no 'choke points' defending GVs will never leave their base. If HTC decided to incorporate rivers, bridges and dense trees lines these could be used to establish natural choke points and would be more 'real' (this words a joke when talking about AH GVs) then the current spawn camp.

FYI:

 I think GVs are stupid and really don't care what they do...

[68DevilM]

Originally posted by FX1
Aces High? No gv in that name. I played ww2onlie didnt really like it. I came to this place for the acm and vulching picking running tards that play this game. Gving is when i am really bored our just really drunk.

im tired of this saying.......

how bout if its a flying game then get rid of the ground pounders all together

[JMFJ]

Originally posted by Stang
Didn't know you had to be smart to just point and click.  Even a monkey can be taught to do that.

Any one can point there plane and click on the fire button, that doesn't mean they are going to hit what they are aiming at.  Nor does it mean they will acquire a kill out of it.

Besides for someone who has put in less than 7 hours in a GV over the last 12 months, I am having a hard time believing your oppinions are anything more than a flame for any one who enjoys the GV side of the game.

There is alot of tricks in the GV's (just like in the planes), if you don't put in your time, or someone doesn't tell you, you are going to just be fodder for the wolves.

Some of the guys in my squad were saying the same thing, GV's are lame, and there is no skill involved, blah blah blah.  I took them to the DA showed them a handfull of tricks.  Now when I log on and see tank town, guess who's already in there kicken butt and taking names.

There is tricks for:
Using your sight marks as a rangefinder
Long ranging
dodging bombs
where to hit tanks
what tanks can do damage to what other tanks
using speed to your advantage
angle management
height advantages in relationship to trajectory patterns
shooting on the move
objects you can shoot through
know who you are up against, and how to deal w/them
advantageous view settings
how to take out tigers w/jeeps
good spawn camp locations v.s. bad locations
tactics for dealing w/guys who only drive tigers
which side of a tree you should post up on
skins v.s. map terrain
changing your view settings

OH AND THERE IS MORE BUT I THINK YOU GET THE POINT

JMFJ

[JMFJ]

Of all the weird and unrealistic things that happen w/gv's

EXAMPLES:
tanks flipping over when you bumb hedges
tanks driving inside other tanks
etc.........

The one that takes the cake

Shooting an IL2 square in the nose with a panzer and he flies off and lands, that is the most rediculous thing i've ever seen.  Didn't even make him smoke, nothing, a 70+mm round going throught the nose of an IL2 would gut that plane from front to back.

JMFJ

[Slash27]

Originally posted by 68DevilM
im tired of this saying.......

how bout if its a flying game then get rid of the ground pounders all together

No

[NAVCAD]

I'm with 68DevilM:

Enough of the bashing other rides/likes/dis-likes.  I tend to GV a lot, this is because I SUCK in a fighter:)  But I'm not going to trash the fighters in that they're lame.  

I personally don't furball (because of the before mentioned sucking in fighters) I would rather take real estate.  But I don't bash those that do furball.

Yes there are some fixes that need to be made to the GV modeling. (especially since the last patch it seems).  BUT in saying that I think HTC has already stated (forgive me for not doing a search on this) that the primary premis of Aces High was the flight modeling.  The GVs add a great demension, but when it comes right down to it, this is a flight game.

Again this is coming from a professed GVer and I would sure love to get a little more fidelity and realism to the GV model.

But don't go bashing someone, or for that matter some part of the game just because you can't do it.  

Like everything else it takes practice. (although I've been with Aces High for over 2 years and I still can't fly worth a crap....and I was a NAVAL AVIATOR for christ sake..LMFAO  


NAVCAD

[101ABN]

Agree with NAVCAD and DevilMac...

if you die at a spawn point, victim of the dreaded campers, take up a jabo and clear the camp.. dont "spawn 15 times and die in 3 seconds"... its like putting your hand in boiling water... ouch that hurt, let me do it again... and again... and again.... its like the crying game about getting vulched on the runway... look out the tower, if there is bad air dont take off.. geeze..

i have been flipped by bushes, trees, supply trucks, and sheep.. dont know how any of those can roll a massive armored vehicle.. ive shot tanks, M16s, osti (which took 8 frontal shots from my tiger to kill) and had shots bouncing all over the place...its just one of those things, it will get fixed one day... maybe in 2 weeks.

if GVs get on your nerves, take a week off.. relax.. play with the kids... have a beer or two then come back a refreshed man.

[68DevilM]

Originally posted by 101ABN
Agree with NAVCAD and DevilMac...

if you die at a spawn point, victim of the dreaded campers, take up a jabo and clear the camp.. dont "spawn 15 times and die in 3 seconds"... its like putting your hand in boiling water... ouch that hurt, let me do it again... and again... and again.... its like the crying game about getting vulched on the runway... look out the tower, if there is bad air dont take off.. geeze..

i have been flipped by bushes, trees, supply trucks, and sheep.. dont know how any of those can roll a massive armored vehicle.. ive shot tanks, M16s, osti (which took 8 frontal shots from my tiger to kill) and had shots bouncing all over the place...its just one of those things, it will get fixed one day... maybe in 2 weeks.

if GVs get on your nerves, take a week off.. relax.. play with the kids... have a beer or two then come back a refreshed man.

AHEMEN Brother!!!!!:aok

[Midnight]

Spawn Camping is lame, yes - however, allowing for GVs to spawn anywhere they want within a pre-defined range would make attacking a base with a GV impossible.

Why? Because an advancing GV, getting closer and closer to the field, killin defenders would all the sudden have a GV (driven by the guy he just killed) spawn right behind him.

That would be like allowing fighters to spawn at 5K going 250MPH in the middle of FT.

[FiLtH]

I rarely use Gvs. Other than being so easily seen from the air and easy meat, I dont like the drive followed by a likely ditch without driving 15 miles back to base.  I play this game for the planes. Im glad someone does gv though as they are fun to bomb. Some people are pretty good in them knowing exactly where to aim, where to hide etc. Its just not for me.

[hubsonfire]

Originally posted by Simaril





Just a thought....

Is this behavior any different from that of the awful griefers who kill FHs to spoil other people's fun?

I don't kill hangars, be they fighter, bomber, or vehicle. I kill people. The only thing I enjoy in the game is competing against other human beings in armed vehicles, preferably aircraft, but GVs on rare occasions (normally when my rudder axis is so flaky as to prevent me from flying). I do not pay money to combat inanimate cartoon structures. I can not imagine anything more dull then a MMO practice range.

[Stang]

Originally posted by JMFJ
Any one can point there plane and click on the fire button, that doesn't mean they are going to hit what they are aiming at.  Nor does it mean they will acquire a kill out of it.

Besides for someone who has put in less than 7 hours in a GV over the last 12 months, I am having a hard time believing your oppinions are anything more than a flame for any one who enjoys the GV side of the game.

There is alot of tricks in the GV's (just like in the planes), if you don't put in your time, or someone doesn't tell you, you are going to just be fodder for the wolves.

Some of the guys in my squad were saying the same thing, GV's are lame, and there is no skill involved, blah blah blah.  I took them to the DA showed them a handfull of tricks.  Now when I log on and see tank town, guess who's already in there kicken butt and taking names.

There is tricks for:
Using your sight marks as a rangefinder
Long ranging
dodging bombs
where to hit tanks
what tanks can do damage to what other tanks
using speed to your advantage
angle management
height advantages in relationship to trajectory patterns
shooting on the move
objects you can shoot through
know who you are up against, and how to deal w/them
advantageous view settings
how to take out tigers w/jeeps
good spawn camp locations v.s. bad locations
tactics for dealing w/guys who only drive tigers
which side of a tree you should post up on
skins v.s. map terrain
changing your view settings

OH AND THERE IS MORE BUT I THINK YOU GET THE POINT

JMFJ

I don't drive GV's because I'd rather fly a cartoon plane, it's a lot more fun and the fights are much more complex and dynamic.  The incessant camp/get camped style of gv play is rather annoying as well, but that's how HT set it up so there isn't much we can do about it.

Don't kid yourself though, everything you listed a monkey could do.

[JMFJ]

Originally posted by Stang
I don't drive GV's because I'd rather fly a cartoon plane, it's a lot more fun and the fights are much more complex and dynamic.  The incessant camp/get camped style of gv play is rather annoying as well, but that's how HT set it up so there isn't much we can do about it.

Don't kid yourself though, everything you listed a monkey could do.

Well I guess pass me the bananas.

KING KONG