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Offline timid

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30mm sometimes duds?
« on: June 11, 2006, 08:14:46 PM »
Are some of the 30mm rounds in the K4 sometimes duds? I've been noticing hits but no damage on other fighters. If necessary I can post a pic or mov with one of the rounds hitting the wing root of a N1k and doing no damage. If there are some duds, please disregard :)

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« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2006, 08:28:24 PM »
Not that I'm aware of. There's only been myself and mega. Oh I almost forgot, there was a milkdud I saw, and a cooldud lol.
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Re: 30mm sometimes duds?
« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2006, 08:50:03 PM »
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Are some of the 30mm rounds in the K4 sometimes duds? I've been noticing hits but no damage on other fighters. If necessary I can post a pic or mov with one of the rounds hitting the wing root of a N1k and doing no damage. If there are some duds, please disregard :)


Make sure you arent hitting them with BB's instead of taters
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Re: Re: 30mm sometimes duds?
« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2006, 08:52:42 PM »
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Make sure you arent hitting them with BB's instead of taters


I just fire secondary, I don't use the MG's at all.

EDIT: also, the ping shows up as a rather large explosion on the wingroot of the one I actually caught while recording.

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« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2006, 09:59:21 PM »
"Rubber bullet syndrome" is occasionally brought up and complained about.  I don't pretend to know why it occurs.  But logging off and logging back in seems to solve the problem from what I have heard.

Krusty complained about 30mms not doing what they were supposed to a while back.  I PMed him in the MA a half hour later and we ran a few tests trying to reproduce it.  We couldn't -- 30mm hits slaughtered anything they touched.  Just seems to be an on again-off again occurrance for some people.
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« Reply #5 on: June 11, 2006, 10:25:15 PM »
Thanks for the helpful replies. Guess it's just some semi-rare fluke thing I will have to deal with. :)

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« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2006, 10:25:46 PM »
It happens with all caliber weapons. I've put a 4 or 5 second burst of .50 into a Lanc from dead 6 and not done any real damage, then on a later flight killed one with about 50 rounds in the same attack.

I've also received it- a long burst that does no real damage, and on another flight lose a wing or tail (or my favorite, the 1 ping PK) to a snapshot.
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« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2006, 10:52:41 PM »
Against bombers 60% are pure duds. I have many films to prove this.

Against fighters they generally work 95% of the time. The odd time you might not see damage but I bet the pilot got a wound and the rest was spread out across the fuselage, tail, right wing and left wing (thus doing full damage but not to any one part).

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« Reply #8 on: June 11, 2006, 11:18:01 PM »
I unloaded about 200 rds of .50cal into a Hurri once in convergence range and didn't even scratch his paint. :p
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« Reply #9 on: June 12, 2006, 12:27:35 AM »
I have, on a several occasions, hit a fighter with a 30mm that didn't instantly destroy the con or knock something crucial off. Although a huge percentage of shots on wings, wingroot, or the canopy produced good results, hits on the rest of the fuselage didn't always guarantee a kill.
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« Reply #10 on: June 12, 2006, 05:12:27 AM »
Think the only plane I've ever hit with a 30mm and not killed is an La-7.  Sometimes you'll hit them with a 30mm and they'll just get an oil leak, but the vast majority of the time any plane you hit is either dead or engineless.

You may want to make sure that Vsync is enabled.

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« Reply #11 on: June 12, 2006, 10:38:46 AM »
I thought you had to DISABLE vsync, because if it's enabled, your frames are waiting for the other direction before they synch up, and you get false hits because they wait?

I leave mine to "application preference" because I forget which you need to set it to, but I THINK you need to set it to "off".

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« Reply #12 on: June 12, 2006, 11:49:21 AM »
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I leave mine to "application preference" because I forget which you need to set it to, but I THINK you need to set it to "off".


VSync should be left or turned ON.

This has always been the case since I started flying back when AW4W was new.


ALWAYS SET VSYNC TO ON!

Unless you want to check your max frame rate, best done when not trying to kill others in AH.
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« Reply #13 on: June 12, 2006, 11:55:26 AM »
Good Lord, I hope there arent more Dud's, Mega and Supa are two more than we need as it is.

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« Reply #14 on: June 12, 2006, 12:47:15 PM »
Every report of rubber bullets or duds that was filmed has been proven false. If you see the flash, damage is accumlated.

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