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Offline 2bighorn

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« Reply #15 on: June 13, 2006, 05:48:01 PM »
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Bighorn your evaluation is 100% oposit of reality.
It wasn't evaluation, Hitech, just an observation, and as I've said, time to move on.
wish you all the best, to your crew and all the players.

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« Reply #16 on: June 13, 2006, 06:01:07 PM »
HiTech: What are we to police?

If we're to police things, I'd like a badge and a whistle.;)
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« Reply #17 on: June 13, 2006, 06:02:24 PM »
Again for the millionth time, i was NOT trying to up my score.  If i had, then why wouldnt i have done what everyone else does.  Kill stats in bombers, and what not.  All i was trying to do was fly and fight a friend.  This friend was simply TRYING to teach me how to kill a T-34 tank in an IL2.  I have had severe problems with killing this tank.  I guess it was a POOR choice to do it in the MA and not in the TA or DA.  But not let us forget, TA you are unable to "KILL" anything, and in the DA, the killshooter is on.  I have appologized for everything that has happened, and ill say it once again, i will take ANY punishment from HiTech and gang.  It was an honost mistake!  And i hope EVERYONE can get past this and stop beating a dad horse!
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« Reply #18 on: June 13, 2006, 06:32:36 PM »
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Again for the millionth time, i was NOT trying to up my score.  If i had, then why wouldnt i have done what everyone else does.  Kill stats in bombers, and what not.  All i was trying to do was fly and fight a friend.  This friend was simply TRYING to teach me how to kill a T-34 tank in an IL2.  I have had severe problems with killing this tank.  I guess it was a POOR choice to do it in the MA and not in the TA or DA.  But not let us forget, TA you are unable to "KILL" anything, and in the DA, the killshooter is on.  I have appologized for everything that has happened, and ill say it once again, i will take ANY punishment from HiTech and gang.  It was an honost mistake!  And i hope EVERYONE can get past this and stop beating a dad horse!



Sorry, I don't have a 'dad' horse.  But if you were trying to say a DEAD horse, well then, I might add you stop punting the topic up to the forefront and people will stop kciking it back to you.

Secondly, You should have thought about the consequences before you started the act that is causing you to defend yourself so vehemently.

Finally, the argument that the DA has kill shooter.... your pal is on the other country anyway or you couldn't have killed him in his jeep so many times.  AND you can choose whatever country you like as often as you like in the other arenas. So, there is no argument that you couldn't practice there.  

In conclusion, I will give you my nickles worth of free advice.  If you are trying to dig out but realize the hole is only getting deeper, STOP DIGGING!

Yours Truly,

NCLawMan
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« Reply #19 on: June 13, 2006, 06:44:41 PM »
Some good arguments here but they get lost in the bad grammar.  :aok
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« Reply #20 on: June 13, 2006, 06:57:44 PM »
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The point of my post is, that ALL problems anyone has with a players behavior should be handled directly with HTC, and not publicly.

As for what the consiquences will be, that is us to decided as we see fit.

HiTech


Sorry,  but the problem is that the problem is not player's behavior but the game itself. If we can complain only about some player's behavior it means that we have to find that players. In other words, it means that it is our responcibility to find those guys who are padding their score, and after that anonymously complain to HTC. But why do I have to do that?  It is not what I want to find in this game. And I don't care so much about anybody's score.

But what I definitly know that it is one of features of this game - score and rank - doesn't work how it was intended.  Personally I can live with that. But being myself software developer and working in Internet game industry I wouldn't be happy if one of the declared feature of my game wouldn't work.
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« Reply #21 on: June 13, 2006, 07:01:52 PM »
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TA you are unable to "KILL" anything, and in the DA, the killshooter is on.

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« Reply #22 on: June 13, 2006, 08:25:24 PM »
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Bighorn your evaluation is 100% oposit of reality.


HT's right. It's the long term players vulching each other, and the kiddies are the ones the rest of us are vulching. Checks and balances. ;)
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« Reply #23 on: June 13, 2006, 10:08:20 PM »
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Sorry, but the problem is that the problem is not player's behavior but the game itself. If we can complain only about some player's behavior it means that we have to find that players. In other words, it means that it is our responcibility to find those guys who are padding their score, and after that anonymously complain to HTC. But why do I have to do that? It is not what I want to find in this game. And I don't care so much about anybody's score.


seems to me that jerking off is time more well spent than this.
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« Reply #24 on: June 13, 2006, 10:46:07 PM »
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seems to me that jerking off is time more well spent than this.
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« Reply #25 on: June 13, 2006, 11:55:51 PM »
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It's just another game,  kids becoming the majority of the player's base, .


BACK THE TRUCK UP!!!

2Big, you are what... Maybe 17 on the outside these days?  And you're blaming it on the 'kids'.  You were 15ish when you left ~FATE~ two years ago... (And if I'm confusing you with someone else, I seriously apologize... But I'm about 80% sure here)

Come on.
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« Reply #26 on: June 14, 2006, 12:12:42 AM »
The point is that complaint's will not be handled publicly on the bbs, but thru private means.
 That's what (I think) HT is referring too.
 any thing else is a moot point
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« Reply #27 on: June 14, 2006, 12:16:10 AM »
If you are wondering that your actions are crossing the line, then they probably are.  You don't need rules for basic human decency and fairness.  A person knows well when they are expoiting the game.
Also, placing blame on the younger player base is bigotous.  It seems to be all too fashionable here to blame every bad act in AH on a kid.  The older players are far more dastardly and deceptive.
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« Reply #28 on: June 14, 2006, 12:18:49 AM »
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BACK THE TRUCK UP!!!

2Big, you are what... Maybe 17 on the outside these days?  And you're blaming it on the 'kids'.  You were 15ish when you left ~FATE~ two years ago... (And if I'm confusing you with someone else, I seriously apologize... But I'm about 80% sure here)

Come on.


Hope he accepts your apology. He's probably old than you:aok
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« Reply #29 on: June 14, 2006, 12:21:53 AM »
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Sorry,  but the problem is that the problem is not player's behavior but the game itself. If we can complain only about some player's behavior it means that we have to find that players. In other words, it means that it is our responcibility to find those guys who are padding their score, and after that anonymously complain to HTC. But why do I have to do that?  It is not what I want to find in this game. And I don't care so much about anybody's score.

But what I definitly know that it is one of features of this game - score and rank - doesn't work how it was intended.  Personally I can live with that. But being myself software developer and working in Internet game industry I wouldn't be happy if one of the declared feature of my game wouldn't work.


Regarding your comment of "responsibility" to report something, I don't think you need to view this any differently than any other MMG out there today. All titles encourage players to play at least some sort of policing role. The reasons for that are quite simple...

1) It IS good for the game if players actually care about the integrity of the title they play, and

2) It would be fiscally prohibative for HTC, or any vendor for that matter, to police the game without player input. Players are there watching, interacting, engaging with other players 24/7 across the enytire spectrum of the game space. Leveraging that where ever you can is a good thing and keeps your monthy fee down

So in summary HTC is just doing what is good for the game and player base. Taking input from a range of sources, both internal and external, and analysing that info privately and drawing the conclusion/action they see fit. Its a good model to follow.

Regarding your second paragraph I'm not sure I follow you there. How do you mean it isn't working as intended?
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