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Offline AWMac

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« Reply #45 on: June 20, 2006, 06:52:56 PM »
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That spaghetti monster looks like it has 2 eyeballs, 2 brown testecles, and a long spaghetti noodle that is trying to touch another man.

Must be a California religion.......

See Meatwad sold his Soul...explains the Stock thing and his eyes for the likes of P3nis3s and Te3t1cles...Evil, I say EVIL!!!!!

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Not giving my name... cause Evil is as Evil does....

Nash
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« Reply #46 on: June 20, 2006, 07:06:21 PM »
This might answer some of your questions:



http://www.discover.com/issues/apr-02/cover/
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« Reply #47 on: June 20, 2006, 07:35:41 PM »
If time is indeed truly linear and the concept of the beginning of time actually is a given, how can matter have always existed without being created?
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« Reply #48 on: June 20, 2006, 07:42:53 PM »
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This might answer some of your questions:



http://www.discover.com/issues/apr-02/cover/


"All matter plus all gravity equals zero. So the universe could come from nothing because it is, fundamentally, nothing."

If everything is nothing then one theory is as good as any other.
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« Reply #49 on: June 20, 2006, 07:44:19 PM »
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string theory........ spagetti.......string theory.......spagetti..... hmmmmmmm


M Theory takes strings and adds one more dimension, making membranes.

So it wouldn't be a spaghetti theory, more of a lasagna or possibly even a ravioli theory.

Of course if one rolls the membrane into a tube, then Rigatoni maybe.
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« Reply #50 on: June 20, 2006, 07:50:04 PM »
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If time is indeed truly linear and the concept of the beginning of time actually is a given, how can matter have always existed without being created?


The way I view it is that all the matter probably always existed and that there was no time.

Isn't time just relative to motion? No motion, no time. That doesn't rule out matter existing for an infinity though.

Even if you 'create' matter, it has to be created with *something*, and that something would have had to exist before. The cycle is an endless loop that can't have a beginning, imo.

For me, I tend towards a universe in which matter always existed....even though I can't tell you how that could be possible. It's just what I personally feel is the most logical thing.
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« Reply #51 on: June 20, 2006, 07:52:51 PM »
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Taken down to just bare logical thinking.

1. matter does exist

2. for something to exist, it has to have an origin


I will agree that at least I perceive that you perceive that matter exists, however all that I perceive is just what my brain is telling me.  

This could all be a dream world illusion of existence, all made up in my subconscious…. If that is even real.
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« Reply #52 on: June 20, 2006, 07:55:43 PM »
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I will agree that at least I perceive that you perceive that matter exists, however all that I perceive is just what my brain is telling me.  

This could all be a dream world illusion of existence, all made up in my subconscious…. If that is even real.


So, you admit that you have a brain that tells you stuff? :D

Brain matter?
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« Reply #53 on: June 20, 2006, 07:59:02 PM »
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So, you admit that you have a brain that tells you stuff? :D

Brain matter?


Perhaps you didn't read this part..."all made up in my subconscious…. If that is even real."
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« Reply #54 on: June 20, 2006, 08:02:46 PM »
That all of space/time came from nothing is not at odds with the belief in a creator. In fact, it's pretty much required imo. Apparently, some believe space/time created itself from nothing while others believe it was created by an intelligent being from nothing. True or not, it's more reasonable to believe in intelligent design if for no other reason than that is our only experience.
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« Reply #55 on: June 20, 2006, 08:04:22 PM »
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Perhaps you didn't read this part..."all made up in my subconscious…. If that is even real."


You said that all you percieve is what your brain is tellling you.

You have a conscious existance, at the very minimum. In order to have even a conscious thought, you would have to assume that you actually exist in some form or another.

Even if you had only a "subconscious" that makes up everything for you,  then that would presume you exist.
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« Reply #56 on: June 20, 2006, 08:05:22 PM »
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True or not, it's more reasonable to believe in intelligent design if for no other reason than that is our only experience.


You experienced the intellegent design of say... a pine tree?

Or did you just percieve it?
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« Reply #57 on: June 20, 2006, 08:09:34 PM »
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You experienced the intellegent design of say... a pine tree?

Or did you just percieve it?


I have seen them explode into existence...in a vacume, of course.
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« Reply #58 on: June 20, 2006, 08:09:57 PM »
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Perhaps you didn't read this part..."all made up in my subconsciousďż˝. If that is even real."


Read an article in Reader's Digest a few months ago written by a guy purportedly to have been recruited by the Pentagon to do remote viewing. He relates some of his episodes and mentions that they were calling this the "matrix" long before the movie. No idea if there was an ounce of truth to any of the story but it was interesting.
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« Reply #59 on: June 20, 2006, 08:10:54 PM »
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You experienced the intellegent design of say... a pine tree?

Or did you just percieve it?


All of my experience is based on intelligence. Pay no attention to my wife. ;)
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