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Offline red26

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A little poem a friend sent me guys
« on: June 19, 2006, 02:31:45 PM »
A friend of mine posted this.. Who cares if a soldier dies..

Take a man and put him alone,
Put him twelve thousand miles from home.
Empty his heart of all but blood,
Make him live in sand, in mud.
This is the life I have to live,
This the soul to God I give.
You have your parties and drink your beer,
While young men are dying over here.
Plant your signs on the White House lawn;
"Lets get out of Iraq".
Use your signs and have your fun,
Then refuse to use a gun.
There's nothing else for you to do,
Then I'm supposed to die for you?
There is one thing that you should know;
And that's where I think you should go!
I'm already here and it's too late.
I've traded all my love for all this hate.
I'll hate you till the day I die.
You made me hear my buddy cry.
I saw his leg and his blood shed,
Then I heard them say, "This one's dead".
It was a large price for him to pay,
To let you live another day.
He had the guts to fight and die,
To keep the freedom you live by.
By his dying, your life he buys,
But who cares if a Soldier dies!

If you care repost it and let ppl know you do
If you are in the Military add your name to the list
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« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2006, 02:37:22 PM »
I spent 6 yrs of my life giving to this great country this poem made me cry when I read it because its almost too true. When I came home for leave  in 03 I went to a shopping mall and there was a 13 yr old kid I was in uniform Class A's because I was going to a gradustion after we left there and that kid a 13yr old kid looked at me and called me a " baby Killer" I dont know about yall but I felt like about 1 inch tall. BUT I still love my country :aok
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« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2006, 03:08:46 PM »
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I'll hate you till the day I die.
You made me hear my buddy cry....


who is "you"?

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« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2006, 03:25:46 PM »
I supose its the guy that if asked he wouldnt pick up a wepon to defend this country but yet he wants to gripe about the way of life he's living.

In the service we used to call them HIPPYS but now some of them fight with us so my groupe called them former longhairs. Because thouse that we had with us didnt have the long hair anymore.

But if someone tells me that going to war is wroung and that they would never fight for this land then they need to move to Bosnia or Kosavo or try Bratislava Or the Chech Republic and see how a person lives they dont have a choice some countrys tell you ok your 18 now you need to join up or go to prison.
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« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2006, 03:30:34 PM »
Furious knows the subject of the poem. He's just being obtuse, ignore him.

A similar poem dealing with the term Tommie (or is it Tommy) was written some time back.
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« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2006, 03:35:30 PM »
I didnt know that my friend just sent me that one. it relley hit home for me being a vet. and all
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« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2006, 06:56:34 PM »
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i don't understand how people can join the military and never think they will be put in harms way, the job of the military is to go to war.

former Marine.
« Last Edit: June 19, 2006, 07:03:21 PM by john9001 »

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« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2006, 09:43:02 PM »
Tommy by Rudyard Kipling



I went into a public-'ouse to get a pint o' beer,
The publican 'e up an' sez, "We serve no red-coats here."
The girls be'ind the bar they laughed an' giggled fit to die,
I outs into the street again an' to myself sez I:
    O it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, go away";
    But it's "Thank you, Mister Atkins", when the band begins to play,
    The band begins to play, my boys, the band begins to play,
    O it's "Thank you, Mister Atkins", when the band begins to play.
 
I went into a theatre as sober as could be,
They gave a drunk civilian room, but 'adn't none for me;
They sent me to the gallery or round the music-'alls,
But when it comes to fightin', Lord! they'll shove me in the stalls!
    For it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, wait outside";
    But it's "Special train for Atkins" when the trooper's on the tide,
    The troopship's on the tide, my boys, the troopship's on the tide,
    O it's "Special train for Atkins" when the trooper's on the tide.
 
Yes, makin' mock o' uniforms that guard you while you sleep
Is cheaper than them uniforms, an' they're starvation cheap;
An' hustlin' drunken soldiers when they're goin' large a bit
Is five times better business than paradin' in full kit.
    Then it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, 'ow's yer soul?"
    But it's "Thin red line of 'eroes" when the drums begin to roll,
    The drums begin to roll, my boys, the drums begin to roll,
    O it's "Thin red line of 'eroes" when the drums begin to roll.
 
We aren't no thin red 'eroes, nor we aren't no blackguards too,
But single men in barricks, most remarkable like you;
An' if sometimes our conduck isn't all your fancy paints,
Why, single men in barricks don't grow into plaster saints;
    While it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, fall be'ind",
    But it's "Please to walk in front, sir", when there's trouble in the wind,
    There's trouble in the wind, my boys, there's trouble in the wind,
    O it's "Please to walk in front, sir", when there's trouble in the wind.
 
You talk o' better food for us, an' schools, an' fires, an' all:
We'll wait for extry rations if you treat us rational.
Don't mess about the cook-room slops, but prove it to our face
The Widow's Uniform is not the soldier-man's disgrace.
    For it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Chuck him out, the brute!"
    But it's "Saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot;
    An' it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' anything you please;
    An' Tommy ain't a bloomin' fool -- you bet that Tommy sees!

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« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2006, 11:40:13 PM »
63tb,

That's it and thanks. It still applies today. Tommy does see what's going on.
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« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2006, 12:00:48 AM »
That guy can go suck a nut.

Yes, it's terrible that he's over there. And over there is terrible...

But it ain't the folks who "plant signs in the White House lawn" wot made him go over there.

No... it was a combination of a couple of things:

a) His admirable decision to enlist.

b) The folks at the far reaches of that White House lawn who abused a sacred trust, and thought it'd be a hell of an idea  to spring for plane tickets so that this poet could head off to some miserable fiasco of a war.

And now he's pissed off. Who the hell could blame him.

Christ.... this poem reads like a bitter indictment of Bush's war... yet he has the temerity to lash out at the people who only want him back safe and in one piece.

Read the poem again. This guy has no idea what he's doing over there....

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« Reply #10 on: June 20, 2006, 12:09:13 AM »
Im sure glad we have nash to explain these things to us :rolleyes:
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« Reply #11 on: June 20, 2006, 12:10:24 AM »
Hey - just my pee-oh-vee. :)

What's your take?

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« Reply #12 on: June 20, 2006, 12:11:34 AM »
Nash,

On the contrary, he knows exactly why he's over there. As to the rest of it I don't think you would understand, you lack the background for it.
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« Reply #13 on: June 20, 2006, 12:23:15 AM »
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Nash,

On the contrary, he knows exactly why he's over there. As to the rest of it I don't think you would understand, you lack the background for it.


He does?

"It was a large price for him to pay,
To let you live another day.
He had the guts to fight and die,
To keep the freedom you live by."

I'm sorry to say it, but his buddy's death had nothing to do with anyone back on the mainland being able to live another day.

It had nothing to do with freedom. And nobody's life depended on it.

I wonder....

Who was he referring to when he said this: "You made me hear my buddy cry."

Who specifically was he talking about here? Who "put him twelve thousand miles from home?"

Was it the White House lawn flag planters?

(which by the way is impossible nowadays.... )

No... Of course not.

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« Reply #14 on: June 20, 2006, 12:40:26 AM »
Like I said nash you lack the perspective and I have no doubt you always will. The people that soldier was talking to and talking down about was not the President. He doesn't feel betrayal by having been sent there. He feels betrayal for those. perhaps like yourself, who see and say nothing but bad things about what is going on over there. He feels the criticism they levy against the situation is also levied against him and he resents it.

Those who won't do what other do, yet feel smug in the satisfaction that they are somehow superior to those who do place themselves in harms way and criticise the fact that they went or are there. Those are the folks that soldier feels betrayed by, that his and his friends sacrifice isn't appreciated, instead he feels vilified and degraded by those who wouldn't go.

Kind of like the summer soldier that was talked about so many years ago. It's all great to be rah rah and lets all get the job done as long as things are all going our way. Yet let something justseem  to be not going our way and it's all we don't belong there, we should never have gone, we don't know what we are doing, we are screwing it all up, we can't win this quagmire. When WE doesn't include those who are there, only those who aren't and likely never will be there.

He resents the use of the freedom he is guarding of those by those who would ever deign to do something or sacrifice like that for anyone else.

You have your parties and drink your beer,
While young men are dying over here.
Plant your signs on the White House lawn;
"Lets get out of Iraq".
Use your signs and have your fun,
Then refuse to use a gun.
There's nothing else for you to do,
Then I'm supposed to die for you?
There is one thing that you should know;
And that's where I think you should go!

I really don't think you would understand it any more than a person who has been blind all their life can understand the color orange.
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