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Offline Guppy35

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« Reply #150 on: July 11, 2006, 04:49:09 PM »
Go here Reynolds.  This guy's had the 109 addiction a lot longer :)

http://109lair.hobbyvista.com/index1024.htm
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« Reply #151 on: July 12, 2006, 12:54:27 AM »
Well, yeah. This one will be focused on the A/C in aces high though. Its an excellent resource though! Thanks!

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« Reply #152 on: July 12, 2006, 08:21:30 PM »
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« Reply #153 on: July 12, 2006, 09:35:19 PM »
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« Reply #154 on: July 13, 2006, 03:38:32 AM »
OH! Beutiful!!! Mind if I use that on the site? where the hell did you get it? whats the story behind it? its almost as beutiful as Diablo's! And Diablo, thanks for the full size. Thats definately going to be my desktop!
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« Reply #155 on: July 13, 2006, 01:20:00 PM »
Ive had that pic for a while..I forgot were I got it though....I like it cuz it can be interpreted anyway you want to..

Here are some 109 pics from the ARR-Aeronautica Regala Romana, (Romanian Royal Aeronautics) particularly Grupul 7 Vanatoare (7th Fighter Group)...






Grupul 7 Vanatoare's 109E
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« Reply #156 on: July 13, 2006, 01:27:35 PM »
Are you romanian Platano?
It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

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« Reply #157 on: July 13, 2006, 01:30:27 PM »
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Are you romanian Platano?



lol no Im dominican but in AH I fly in a Rumanian squad :)
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« Reply #158 on: July 14, 2006, 01:42:26 AM »
Nice!

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« Reply #159 on: July 16, 2006, 02:16:08 AM »
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Well first of all 109's werent made to land on carriers and that probably why your going as slow as you can go..and when you go as slow as you can go it's inevitable that she's gonna snap roll on you....



But 109 was made to land on a carrier. Bf 109T was the carrier version of the 109, with lenghtened wings, reinforcements and hook.
Also, 109s did not snap roll on stalling. The plane gave very clear warning when approaching stall and the wing slats enhanced slow speed flying qualities, AND eliminated sudden snaps to either side.

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« Reply #160 on: July 16, 2006, 04:22:39 AM »
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But 109 was made to land on a carrier. Bf 109T was the carrier version of the 109, with lenghtened wings, reinforcements and hook.
Also, 109s did not snap roll on stalling. The plane gave very clear warning when approaching stall and the wing slats enhanced slow speed flying qualities, AND eliminated sudden snaps to either side.



Okay. several things:

Yes, the T was a carrier, but it was modified. Es, Fs, Gs, and Ks dont have the nescesarry parts (hooks and a lengthened wings) to land on carriers.

No, a 109 K is not meant for carrier landings, but YES, it can be done without moderate damage to the airframe.

No, it doesnt snap-roll when i dont throttle up, it DOES nose down and to the left, and wont recover. When slowly throttling up it DOES snap-roll left, and YES i DO know that the torque of the engine causes that.

Maybe HTC needs to look at the 109 flight modelling. It may be the way i fly, or it may be the models. I dont know.

Also, i think a T would be a nice addition, so Deutschland can get it's foot in the door as far as carrier warfare. I know we didnt have any CVs commisioned, but we DID have the aircraft! :D

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« Reply #161 on: July 16, 2006, 04:44:12 AM »
Reynolds,
just noticed your sig....

Guess who I met last weekend in Duxford in Flying Legends airshow?
I bought his new book called "Wings on my Sleeve" and he also signed the book with best wishes.
Yup... that very same gentleman :)


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« Reply #162 on: July 16, 2006, 04:47:56 AM »
Damn! I wish i had the money to travel and see these shows and meet these people... DAMN THE UNIVERSE FOR MAKING ME 13!!!

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« Reply #163 on: July 16, 2006, 06:49:41 PM »
BlauK: I envy you.
And Reynolds: I wish I had all those years that have passed since I was 13 as perks :D
It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

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« Reply #164 on: July 16, 2006, 07:37:37 PM »
hey, i just wanna be 17, and go off the USAFA, and join the Air Force already!!!:furious :furious :cry :furious :furious