Does it ever seem like ......

[Urchin]

Hehe, I've done that in an IL-2 before.  I've flown into several 2v1s when I think it is GVs attacking a base but it is really a couple planes.  I always go for the joust in that situation, and I'd say at least half the time both planes will fly right at me guns ablaze.  

I think it is hilarious, personally.  

If I'm in a fighter I'll joust only as a last resort.  I think the joust is a desperation move - it just takes a lot less to get some people desperate.

[Husky01]

Thanks super and urchin for them imputi think i might just have totry that some time:D

[Killjoy2]

I'm of the opinion that few of the AH players have any concept of ACM.  The "elders" didn't pass it on, AH only gives lip service to ACM and the turnover does the rest.

I used to do quite well a few years ago, but I'm just lazy and tired of HO's.  There are only 2 kinds of fights left.

Fight A - A straight on HO from 3000 out.  I go so tired of it that 50% of the time I'll take the HO because I don't care any more.  

Fight B - The beginnings of an actual fight.  Opps here comes the horde and you get jumped by 10 cons.  Doesn't matter there's nothing you can do.

Fight C - The Boom and Zoom.   This is about the only option left.  Except there's AckAck way up there doing his impresion of Sputnik.  


As much as I'm tired of HO threads, every single one of them has a point.  The point is... (wait for it)  Too many of the players in AH have no background in WW2 planes.  

They expect Quakebirds and thats what HTC gives them.  When was the last sop to historical play action in AH?  Oh I remember, we got new skins.  

HTC counts on turnover to keep the revenue coming in as more and more of the "old timers" get bored and give it up.  If there's ever a decend 12 step program I'd quit myself.

[icemaw]

GOOD LORD NOT ANOTHER FLIPPIN HO THREAD!!!

 come on how about some originality damn

[Husky01]

lol sry just wanted guys imputs on things is all:)

[Husky01]

Now your idea of a HO  isnt jsut Head on but you both sides must have a line of shoot on the other...wow didnt know that thanks!:aok

[Krusty]

A lot of folks just can't be arsed to do anything but HO. I was in an 8-player room not too long ago, and one player just seemed to only go for the HO all the time, even if he was in a bad position, slow, and low, whatever.

Now don't get me wrong, read the rest first.

So I made a few comments. We said a few things that could be considered an argument. Not angry, mind you, just an exchange of text about the matter. Okay, and maybe a little of "trying to get his goat" on my part (I apologize for that), but after this he really started putting up a fight. A damn good fight. We had some good Ki84 duels (and him in Ki me in "other" duels). I have about 30 minutes of film of it. Now, this is just one example, and I won't give the pilots name or anything, because he was a stand up guy overall, put up a heckuva fight many times in a row. Don't want you all to rag him for HOing.

But I think that for most pilots, they *CAN* fly a lot better. They just don't want to be bothered!!

The others just do it because they don't know better. You can tell these pilots instantly. They can't do anything but fly straight, HO, run, or auger in a BNZ dive.

[MINNOW]

Anymore, I always go for the HO if its there.... Everytime I try to avoid or try to manuver past one, bang.. Dead....


So I dont even try to figure out what their lead shot is gonna be, I just open up.  

If you dont want to get HO'd, Dont fly direct at someone.

my .02

[Husky01]

Now I can kinda understand Hoing if you have the shoot but other then that i dont much see the point lol

[MINNOW]

There isnt a point.

The last actual fight that I had that didnt start with a HO was with Drediock about 2 months ago. He was in his 109 and I was in a Seafire. We spun and flipped around for a good 5 minutes before he got picked by a bastage flyin high and popped him.

It sucked that it ended like that. I never saw the 2nd bird come in til it was too late.

Unfortunatly, and I include myself in this statement. Too many pilots in the MA either havent learned the ACM skills or dont want to bother learning them. I'm slowly figuring it all out but it takes a lot of time and many deaths before you become "ok".

Why flop around with an aircraft when you can HO one and go on. Its sad but its the reality of AH.

[Kurt]

Originally posted by SlapShot
If I am pointing at you and you are pointing at me (both have guns solutions) and you come down on the trigger ... you have just HOed.

For the purpose of HO whining, I disagree... If we have already merged and are now into our fight, a front on shot is valid.

I realize that from the strict definition this is a head on.  What I'm saying is that AFTER the first merge if you cry out 'That n00b HO'd me' - Then you're just a sore loser.

HO in the whining about it context means shooting in the merge.  I do not do that unless you shot first and I believe I have the guns to do the job.

[Husky01]

rgr

[SuperDud]

Originally posted by Kurt
For the purpose of HO whining, I disagree... If we have already merged and are now into our fight, a front on shot is valid.

I realize that from the strict definition this is a head on.  What I'm saying is that AFTER the first merge if you cry out 'That n00b HO'd me' - Then you're just a sore loser.

HO in the whining about it context means shooting in the merge.  I do not do that unless you shot first and I believe I have the guns to do the job.

I personally still consider that a HO. Some do, some don't.

I also think it's the context of the fight. If that situation happens to me in the MA, it annoys me a bit but I except it. In a DA setting where your trying to win through ACMs I think it's kind of a lame thing to do.

[DarkS1ar]

Usually I avoid a ho but then I come across players that shall remain nameless goldelks and I usually ho just hear them scream on ch 200, man he never stops after that.

p.s it was not a ho i was on your 8 o clock.

[uberhun]

Whats all this yapping about Ho's. We have Ho's in this game? I never seen em! How many percs do they cost? Are they any good? Are they clean?? Where do you find em? I heard they were in the MA. Where??