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Offline Yoshimbo

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« on: July 20, 2006, 02:33:05 AM »
I kno nuthin's gettin added till after CT (CT! w00t!)

but i feel i must post these anyway:D

Gloster Gladiator I or II
(everybody used it, and was used in some 34 different squadrons. Good for those REALY early war scenarios, lol)



Armée de l'Air!!!

Potex 630
More than 700 Potez 63.11 were delivered by June 1940.
All members of the family (possibly except the Potez 637) shared pleasant flying characteristics. They were well designed for easy maintenance and later models had a heavy armament for the time (up to 12 light machine guns for the Potez 63.11). They were also quite attractive aircraft. Although not heavily built they proved capable of absorbing considerable battle damage.

(a multi-role twin engine aircraft. think 110, but French, and waaay suckier firepower)

General
Length: 10.93 m (35 ft 11 in)
Wingspan: 16.00 m (52 ft 6 in)
Height: 3.08 m (10 ft 1 in)
Empty: 3,135 kg (6,911 lb)
Maximum takeoff: 4,530 kg (9,987 lb)
Powerplant: 2x Gnome-Rhône 14M-4/5 radials, 522 kW (700 hp) each

Performance
Maximum speed: 425 km/h (264 mph)
Range: 1,500 km (932 miles)
Service ceiling: 8,500 m (27,885 ft)
Rate of climb: 500 m/min (1,640 ft/min)


Armament
1-12x fixed, forward-firing 7.5 mm MAC 1934 machine gun
1x fixed, rearward-firing 7.5 mm MAC 1934 machine gun
1x flexible, rearward-firing 7.5 mm MAC 1934 machine gun
4x 50 kg (110 lb) bombs
(i wonderwut 12 light MGs ripping into the side of emy would look like? cheese through a grater?)


Dewotine D.520
FPrabably France's "Best" fighter
By the time of the armistice at the end of June, 437 D.520's had been built, and 351 of these had been delivered. In that time they had 108 confirmed kills and 39 probables, losing 54 to enemy action.

General
Length: 8.7 m (28 ft 8 in)
Wingspan: 33 ft 6 in (10.2 m)
Height: 2.6 m (8 ft 5 in)
Empty weight: 2,090 kg (4,608 lb)
Max takeoff weight: 2,780 kg (6,129 lb)
Powerplant: 1× Hispano-Suiza 12Y-45 liquid-cooled V-12, 690 kW (930 hp)

Performance
Maximum speed: 529 km/h (329 mph)
Range: 1,250 km (777 mi)

Armament
1x 20 mm cannon
4x 7.5 mm machine guns


Morane-Saulnier M.S.406
Numerically it was France's most important fighter during the opening stages of World War II.The top Morane ace was W/O Urho Lehtovaara with 15 kills on Morane, of total 42.
.......To be honest this one kinda sucked....
The design held its own in the early stages of the war (the so-called Phony War), when the war restarted in earnest in 1940, 400 were lost in combat and on ground for only 175 kills in return (as well as more destroyed on the ground). The Finns scored further 121 kills with Morane-Saulnier 406 (code letters MS).

General
Length: 8.17 m (26 ft 9 in)
Wingspan: 10.62 m (34 ft 10 in)
Height: 2.71 m (8 ft 10 in)
Empty weight: 1,893 kg (4,173 lb)
Loaded weight: 2,426 kg (5,348 lb)
Powerplant: 1× Hispano-Suiza 12Y31 liquid-cooled V-12, 640 kW (860 hp)

Performance
Maximum speed: 486 km/h at 5,000 m (290 mph at 16,400 ft)
Range: 1,000 km (620 mi)
Rate of climb: 13.0 m/s (2,560 ft/min)

Armament
1× 20 mm Hispano cannon
2× 7.5 mm machine guns


Bloch MB 152 C1
MB.151s and MB.152s equipped six fighter Groupes during the Battle of France, but proved completely outclassed by the Messerschmitt Bf 109E. They continued to fly in the Vichy air force until this was disbanded. Some of these aircraft were then supplied to Romania.
Nine MB.151s were exported to Greece.

General
Length: 9.10 m (29 ft 10 in)
Wingspan: 10.54 m (34 ft 7 in)
Height: 3.20 m (9 ft 11 in)
Empty: 2,158 kg (4,758 lb)
Loaded: kg ( lb)
Maximum takeoff: 2,800 kg (6,173 lb)
Powerplant: 1x Gnome-Rhône 14N-25 radial, 757 kW (1030 hp)

Performance
Maximum speed: 509 km/h (315 mph)
Range: 600 km (373 miles)
Service ceiling: 10,000 m (32,810 ft)
Rate of climb: 590 m/min (1,935 ft/min)

Armament
2x 20 mm Hispano 404 cannon (60-round drum) and 2x 7.5 mm MAC 1934 machine guns (500 rounds each) or
4x MAC 1934s

Cutriss Hawk 75A1
Although the Hawk75 saw limited service at home, the Hawk75 was used extensivly by France. During 1939-1940, French claimed 230 confirmed and 80 probable victories in Hawk 75s against only 29 aircraft lost in aerial combat. Of the 11 French aces of the early war, seven flew Hawks.

General
Length: 28 ft 6 in (8.7 m)
Wingspan: 37 ft 1 in (11.3 m)
Height: 9 ft 2 in (2.8 m)
Empty weight: 4,665 lb (2,116 kg)
Loaded weight: 5,867 lb (2,661 kg)
Powerplant: 1× Pratt & Whitney R-1830-13 Twin Wasp air-cooled radial piston engine, 1,050 hp (783 kW)

Performance
Maximum speed: 322 mph (518 km/h)
Cruise speed: 260 mph (420 km/h)
Range: 650 mi (1,046 km)
Service ceiling: 32,340 ft (9,860 m)
Rate of climb: 2,500 ft/min (13 m/s)

Armament
French export version, 4x 7.5 mm machine guns


And that's it for now,  iwas going to pose sum French bombers and what not, but it is late and I am tired and therefore my brain is ...uh...er....mmm..Zzzzzzz

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« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2006, 03:31:34 AM »
don't leave out the VG-33.
apparently two of them made it in time for Battle of France combat....:noid :noid :furious

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« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2006, 10:30:03 AM »
Here is a French Median Bomber I would love to see. The AMIOT 354.


But since this is Yoshimbo posts about French planes, I'll let him tell you guys the stats on this plane. (But in my book it says it was Frances Finest Bomber of WW2)
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« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2006, 12:55:52 PM »
we need a farman 223.4
it was the 1st plane to bomb berlin

and the hideousest ROFL!!!

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« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2006, 01:07:46 PM »
France didn't FIGHT in WWII!!!!! They surendered to Germany and then kissed the Germans butts for a couple of years. Then we kicked the Germans out and the French kissed our butts. Bunch of butt kissers is all they were/are.

Sorry for the hijack but I don't like France.
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« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2006, 01:51:54 PM »
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Originally posted by Hornet33
France didn't FIGHT in WWII!!!!! They surendered to Germany and then kissed the Germans butts for a couple of years. Then we kicked the Germans out and the French kissed our butts. Bunch of butt kissers is all they were/are.

Sorry for the hijack but I don't like France.



ahhh...wonder when the idiots would make an appearance.  You never fail to disappoint us Hornet.  I bet it would really twist your panties in a bunch when you learn that if it wasn't for France there would be no U.S.A...



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« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2006, 02:48:37 PM »
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Originally posted by Hornet33
France didn't FIGHT in WWII!!!!! They surendered to Germany and then kissed the Germans butts for a couple of years. Then we kicked the Germans out and the French kissed our butts. Bunch of butt kissers is all they were/are.

Sorry for the hijack but I don't like France.


FYI, not one single French unit broke and ran in WWII.  Not one.

The USA cannot claim the same.

In the three week Battle of France 100,000 French soldiers died fighting.

The French were defeated strategically and tactically, not due to any lack of valor on the part of the French fighting men.  The leadership failed France utterly, not the people.

In short, go read some history and learn some of what really happened.  Not just spout jingoist nonsense because it makes you feel tough and manly.


And I am sure the Marquise (sp?) would like to hear you tell them how they "kissed the Germans asses".  Then they could explain to you how you kiss somebody with explosives and bullets.
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« Reply #7 on: July 20, 2006, 04:33:26 PM »
I'm going to distance myself from Hornet on this one, but I must say that I'm 99.999999% sure that NO french plane will ever be introduced into this game. The role they played in the war itself was marginal. France did have a large air force, I know. However the Battle of France was over almost instantly and the french fighters were either destroyed or (in *rare* cases) turned into LW trainers. The bombers were pretty poor, as well.

It's like saying "Hey, why don't we have any Portugeuse-built planes?!?!?" -- because in the grand scheme of things, they didn't make a difference.

Sorry for the Francophiles I've hurt here, but that's the way I see it.

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« Reply #8 on: July 20, 2006, 05:02:06 PM »
good insight from ack ack  .

1 french plane would be ok maybe that 1st one   then everyone can shoot it ;)

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« Reply #9 on: July 20, 2006, 05:55:24 PM »
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The French were defeated strategically and tactically, not due to any lack of valor on the part of the French fighting men.  The leadership failed France utterly, not the people.


Very true indeed,

The French did have exceptionally more and better tanks than the Germans had, it was merely due to poor strategic deployal.

Would there be a experienced general in command, I doubt Germany would've won the groundbattle!

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« Reply #10 on: July 20, 2006, 06:05:52 PM »
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Originally posted by Hornet33
France didn't FIGHT in WWII!!!!! They surendered to Germany and then kissed the Germans butts for a couple of years. Then we kicked the Germans out and the French kissed our butts. Bunch of butt kissers is all they were/are.

Sorry for the hijack but I don't like France.




sigh,

some americans still believe ww2 started in late 1941 eh? :rofl

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« Reply #11 on: July 20, 2006, 06:21:31 PM »
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sigh,

some americans still believe ww2 started in late 1941 eh? :rofl
And I suppose to you it started in 1939?  That would also be wrong.  But it is all a matter of perspective.:aok
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« Reply #12 on: July 20, 2006, 06:53:10 PM »
Its not that i dont like the french. I hate everyone that hate the U.S.
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« Reply #13 on: July 20, 2006, 06:56:19 PM »
Personally I would like to see the D.520, and the Hawk 75, in game.  Esp. if the Hawk can have a gun package that includes; 2 .50's and 4 .30's, as well as the 4  .30's.  That way we can do (the Curtis P-36, ;))  Pearl Harbor, and the Japanese  invasion of the Philippines, as well as the Battle of France.
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« Reply #14 on: July 20, 2006, 06:57:37 PM »
I miss helldiver:(
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