Author Topic: "new" 1944 F4u-1d Navair (Read 3425 times)

Saxman · « **Reply #15 on:** July 23, 2006, 09:33:00 AM »

Woo! I was partly right.

Grits · « **Reply #16 on:** July 23, 2006, 07:48:38 PM »

In addition to what WW and Saxman said, all the F4U squads based out of Munda like VMF-221 and VMF-214 shared their aircraft, they didnt have separate planes for each squad. Officially on paper they had certain BuNo aircraft assigned to squads, but once out in the field they shared them because of the difficulty of operating out of those outlying bases. Often they used the healthy pilots from several squads and put them in whatever aircraft were up and working to fill out mission requirements.

Saxman · « **Reply #17 on:** July 23, 2006, 09:03:47 PM »

First I've heard about that, but I did know that while pilots had an individual aircraft "assigned" to them it wasn't like with the 8th AF where it was THEIR plane. The USN and MC drew lots to see who flew which plane on a sortie, or would grab whatever happened to be available.

Grits · « **Reply #18 on:** July 23, 2006, 09:11:32 PM »

Its still like that now, at least in the USMC. My Dad was CO of 214 from '85-'87 and all the A-4's had pilot names on them, but they were randomly assigned according to which ones were operational.

F4UDOA · « **Reply #19 on:** July 23, 2006, 10:25:13 PM »

My personal favorite is Ken Walsh of the VMF-124. He arrived on station in Feb. 1943 and was an ace by May of that year. By the end of August 1943 he had 20 kills most of which were in strictly the F4U-1 with no bubble canopy and no water injection. I would like to see his marking in AH.

The actual changes to the F4U-1 to -1A were made slowly in the field and as they could be made in the factory when parts were available. you can see pictures of the Blacksheep in Late 1943 with birdcage and bubble canopies. The paddle props were not used until early 1944 and engine changes were constant. Technically there is no such thing as an F4U-1A, just modeifed -1's.

I actually saw letters in the archives of pilots complaining that the bubble canopies slowed the airplanes compared to the birdcage so some of those planes may not have been modifed intentionally.

Saxman · « **Reply #20 on:** July 23, 2006, 11:21:44 PM »

I'd just like to see more F4U skins PERIOD. Everything's a Spit or a Mustang.

For those who aren't familiar with the markings I did a search of Ken Walsh and I came up with markings for the -1, -1D (should be 1A?), -4

I always liked the blue-gray on gray early-war markings.

FG-1D with his markings from VMF-214. Should this really be a 1A?

The bottom one is credited as Ken Walsh's F4U-4 from Okinawa.

Real plane carrying the same markings from the other side.

bkbandit · « **Reply #21 on:** July 23, 2006, 11:49:24 PM »

wat game is that?

Saxman · « **Reply #22 on:** July 24, 2006, 01:23:25 AM »

No clue. I just put "Ken Walsh F4U-1" into Yahoo and looked at what came up. Pretty tho, ain't it?

bkbandit · « **Reply #23 on:** July 24, 2006, 02:11:10 AM »

it just sucks that almost every game is prettyier then aces high:lol

F4UDOA · « **Reply #24 on:** July 24, 2006, 09:51:03 AM »

Il-2 is real pretty but the FM is horrible IMHO. I think IL-2 Pac fighters was an afterthought.

I like the variety of AH but Saxman is right. Like most WW2 simms the P-51, Spit, 109 and 190 get most of the attention as far as skins and artwork and the rest come later.

FYI, I said I would like to see Walsh's A/C markings in AH. I would much prefer to see the actual A/C modeled more so than just the paint.

Saxman · « **Reply #25 on:** July 24, 2006, 10:23:13 AM »

Well, as of right now the only one that's really missing is the 1A (I'm thinking that's what that FG-1D is SUPPOSED to be. IIRC the USN/MC stopped using the red-bordered national ensign in late 1943/early 1944).

Or are you referring to updated models?

F4UDOA · « **Reply #26 on:** July 24, 2006, 01:26:40 PM »

Saxman,

I actually want to split the current F4U-1A into two peices.

1. F4U-1 May 1943, No ADI, Birdcage canopy and no stall fix.

2. F4U-1A May 1944. 2250HP ADI, Bubble canopy, paddle prop with bars and no pylons for external stores. 367MPH on the deck, 430MPH at 23K no perkies IE priceless.

Every F4U-1/FG-1 in theater at the time would have been retro-fitted at that time and there was at least a thousand of them. It certainly would have been more common than the 109K, G14, KI-84 and F4U-1C.

bkbandit · « **Reply #27 on:** July 24, 2006, 01:48:10 PM »

now that i think about it we might get f4u1a, i mean they added spit16 and we already had 20 other spit fire models in the hanger.

Saxman · « **Reply #28 on:** July 24, 2006, 02:54:29 PM »

Agh! Stop making me drool DOA, my keyboard is gonna short out.

zorstorer · « **Reply #29 on:** July 24, 2006, 06:00:05 PM »

Just a side thought....who hard do they run the engines of the still flying warbirds? Not counting the reno air races