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Offline lukster

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« Reply #60 on: August 04, 2006, 12:45:05 PM »
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Tell me this, can you suggest anything I should have done differently?

Just not enroll my kids in any type of scouting, is that it?

Lukster, you're pushing your own issues onto this.  I'm not veiling anything, I'm being straight up.  

You're wrong, do you have the strength of character to admit it and apologize?


What have I done wrong? Call you on your anti-Christian crusade? You trying to tell me that you weren't trying to provoke exactly the response you got from many here? I don't buy it.

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« Reply #61 on: August 04, 2006, 12:50:44 PM »
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Originally posted by Chairboy
Tell me this, can you suggest anything I should have done differently?

Just not enroll my kids in any type of scouting, is that it?

Lukster, you're pushing your own issues onto this.  I'm not veiling anything, I'm being straight up.  

You're wrong, do you have the strength of character to admit it and apologize?


Lets see. You could have went to google and typed in "secular youth groups."
Or you could've came here and list all the decadences the boy scouts don't allow and imply thats a bad thing.

Another take on it is this:
I could quietly go to Google and search "ACLU opponents organizations" or I could start a new thread here "What groups combat the communist influence of the ACLU?" or "Who is standing up for the children that the ACLU consistently use as pawns?"

See, its pretty easy to inject baseless arguments when you come as a concerned parent. Perhaps you are a concerned parent that is not familiar with search engines. I don't know because I don't know you. But in my skeptical mind, I think its a easy way to take baseless pot shots at the Boy Scouts of America.

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« Reply #62 on: August 04, 2006, 12:51:45 PM »
You've still to point out exactly what he wrote that's anti-christian.
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« Reply #63 on: August 04, 2006, 12:52:27 PM »
Chairboy clearly stated why he came here to ask if there are organizations similar to the Boy Scouts that do not have religious requirements. He tried googling it, but was only able to find commentary on the Boy Scouts. He was unable to find what he was looking for.

So he came here to ask. He got answers. Then individuals start calling him out on his motives, and he defended his original post, the reason for needing an alternative, and even his religious choice.

The only thing he is guilty of is continuing to reply to those who are basically trolling him.
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« Reply #64 on: August 04, 2006, 12:53:07 PM »
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What have I done wrong? Call you on your anti-Christian crusade? You trying to tell me that you weren't trying to provoke exactly the response you got from many here? I don't buy it.
I was not trying to provoke anything, I was just asking for scouting ideas for my kids, and I got some great ones.  You're pretty much the only person who's freaking out.

If you don't believe me, that's fine, you're entitled to your opinion, but please don't make personal attacks.
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Re: Luckster
« Reply #65 on: August 04, 2006, 12:58:42 PM »
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You've still to point out exactly what he wrote that's anti-christian.


What I said was he is using "typical anti-christian rhetoric." i.e., the the exposure to Christian terms or values will pollute his innocent child.

Oh and he didn't answer MY question.. "Do little atheist believe in Santa Clause?"
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« Reply #66 on: August 04, 2006, 01:06:17 PM »
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What I said was he is using "typical anti-christian rhetoric." i.e., the the exposure to Christian terms or values will pollute his innocent child.
No, that's not at all what I said.  The scouts specifically prohibit atheists and agnostics from joining, so my kid _cannot_ join.  Doesn't matter if I want him to or not.

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Oh and he didn't answer MY question.. "Do little atheist believe in Santa Clause?"
What does Santa have to do with religion?
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« Reply #67 on: August 04, 2006, 01:07:26 PM »
BTW, what's that in bold, heading your post?
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« Reply #68 on: August 04, 2006, 02:46:07 PM »
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BTW, what's that in bold, heading your post?


I dunno, I don't see anything unusual.

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« Reply #69 on: August 04, 2006, 03:08:03 PM »
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No, that's not at all what I said.  The scouts specifically prohibit atheists and agnostics from joining, so my kid _cannot_ join.  Doesn't matter if I want him to or not.

 What does Santa have to do with religion?


Tell ya what I'll do. If you can refrain for six months from bashing/mocking christians/religion here I'll agree that this thread wasn't just more of the same ole and apologize. Otherwise I'll continue to call it as I see it.

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« Reply #70 on: August 04, 2006, 03:14:19 PM »
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In the end.. they decided that organized religion was pretty much a scam.   That does not mean that they decided god was a scam...  

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