Author Topic: Breaking News: IL-2 engine planning to go online (Read 1760 times)

Bodhi · « **Reply #15 on:** August 07, 2006, 10:44:27 AM »

I suspect that in reality, IL2 will never compete on a level that AH2 is on in levels of players and fm accuracy. Oleg has and always will be a fanboi of non allied planes, or better put, an ameri-hater.

LLv34 Jarsci · « **Reply #16 on:** August 07, 2006, 10:51:37 AM »

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Originally posted by Bodhi
I suspect that in reality, IL2 will never compete on a level that AH2 is on in levels of players and fm accuracy. Oleg has and always will be a fanboi of non allied planes, or better put, an ameri-hater.

Well, that pretty much evens it out for us LW flyers then..

If we could just merge AH and Il2 then the planes would be "good" for everyone right...?

Seriously, IL2 russian iron is a tad too well behaving, but also IL2 incorporates engine management which is really much easier in LW birds than in VVS, so that way you can take most out of LW rides easier.

Also Spitfires are there as lethal and easy as they are in AH , so whats the point about american hater? Jug and P38 suddenly cannot dance around with flaps or something?

StarOfAfrica2 · « **Reply #17 on:** August 07, 2006, 12:23:34 PM »

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Originally posted by Kweassa

Many people, including me, have been thinking about how reality would shift around if something like IL2 presented itself as a real contendor in the MMO market. Well, it appears the fantasy is soon to become reality in perhaps a year or two.

So, when that day comes, how may will truly stay loyal and faithful to AH?

Me.

I never liked Il-2. Eye candy was great, but thats not why I play games. I'm here for the same reason I was in AW. The same reason I played NWN. The same reason I continue with other online RPGs that I've been involved in for years. The community.

Eagler · « **Reply #18 on:** August 07, 2006, 12:51:55 PM »

I think the there is plenty of room and customers for both on the intardnet

Yeager · « **Reply #19 on:** August 07, 2006, 12:55:45 PM »

yeah...there are still 15 people playing iENs WBs

Kweassa · « **Reply #20 on:** August 07, 2006, 01:11:16 PM »

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Me.

I never liked Il-2. Eye candy was great, but thats not why I play games. I'm here for the same reason I was in AW. The same reason I played NWN. The same reason I continue with other online RPGs that I've been involved in for years. The community.

Unfortunately Star, the 'community' itself tends to move around. Like Yeager playfully pointed out, if everyone had it your way people would be still playing WB or AW - games that are relatively inferior in many aspects when compared to AH. Many of the AH folk were once the AW community and the WB community too. In the end, all of them deserted AW and WB in the face of AH. There's no guarantee the same would not happen to AH.

I was once an IL-2 basher too. The first of its series had admittably some issues, and the FM, DM, and GM were quite not perfected yet. However, IMO they've perfected it all. To tell you the truth, apart from some torque characteristics I really don't feel that much difference between IL2 and AH FM nowadays. What I can pull of in a Spit or a 109 in IL2, I can do it in AH, and vice versa. The feeling of each plane's 'edge of the envelope' are also very simular. The only difference I feel in IL2/FB is that the US planes cannot pull that uber-flap crap, and the more variety of situations happening in IL-2 due to the better detailed FM, not to mention also the gunnery feeling a lot more realistic.

Frankly, I don't think this is something to just laugh at. Sooner or later, if they really do put out a MMOG based on IL/2 or BoB engine, I fear the only advantage AH2 would hold over the new game would be that AH2 has lower system requirements.

Waffle · « **Reply #21 on:** August 07, 2006, 01:25:13 PM »

Am I gonna have to buy a box game, or can I download it? Will I have to have a cd to play it so it can access files?

SunKing · « **Reply #22 on:** August 07, 2006, 01:34:37 PM »

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Originally posted by Waffle BAS
Am I gonna have to buy a box game, or can I download it? Will I have to have a cd to play it so it can access files?

but then consider every new game is downloadable these days.

expat · « **Reply #23 on:** August 07, 2006, 01:43:44 PM »

'I suspect that in reality, IL2 will never compete on a level that AH2 is on in levels of players and fm accuracy. Oleg has and always will be a fanboi of non allied planes, or better put, an ameri-hater.'

Bohdi now why u saying that ? he dont model your fave plane the way you think it should or what ?????He might not be a fanboi of american planes , he's not american is he ? i know im more partial to brit planes , after all im a brit , does that make me an ameri hater ???? or you just paranoid ? oh and by the way you have flown a world war 2 fighter ??? so how can you say that one flight sim has a better fm than another ????

Kweassa · « **Reply #24 on:** August 07, 2006, 01:58:36 PM »

I think I'd make an excellent doomsayer.

Now if I can only get me a carboard and a pen...

Bruno · « **Reply #25 on:** August 07, 2006, 02:00:04 PM »

What does a box cost 40 USD tops...? The Il2 series can be picked up now for cheap in the bargin bins or the DVD Complete can be picked up for less then the original costs.

No one will download a game the size of BoB or FB-APE-PF except the torrent hounds.

With the Il2 series you don't need a CD / DVD in the drive now.

FB is a lot of fun. Both AH and Il2 are great games but appeal to different folks. I think the AH main game play is just horrible and shows no sign of getting better. I can only play for short periods before logging off. The CT looked interesting but with the recent information I don't think it will appeal much to me, certainly not to box simmers.

But to be fair what Kweassa posted above was originally posted in Russian on a Russian avia forum then translated into English and reposted on the UBI forums almost a week ago.

We don't know exactly what Oleg is talking about here:

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If we get support from the publisher, we are ready to release MMO simulator based on BOB, where not only planes will be controlled by the players, but also tanks, cars, vessels, submarines, basically all elements of warfare that are present in the sim.

Based on BoB... What does that mean? A change is graphically content etc...

Allies High need not be concerned about Oleg...

BoB will be whole new series and the new content will be sold separately. Oleg stated a long while back that surveys they did show only around 10% of the folks who bought Il2 / FB play online. HL used to have more folks in the FB room then the AH main. Nightly numbers are down a bit but still on line can be a lot of fun.

Just checking ASE right now there are 3 severs with 128 players max, 2 with 101, 3 with 80, 2 with 70 a bunch with 64 50 32 etc... There's 550 in FB on HL when I last checked.

I have been on private servers for scenario like events where numbers were well over 100. Il2 maps a far smaller then the 512 x 512 used in the AH main. There are plenty of folks in the IL2 community to fill an AH main size server if Oleg goes MMO with out bring in AH'rs.

I know the Finns ran a few scenario like events that filled up so fast I couldn't get a slot.

Point being that HTC and Oleg aren't in direct competion and there's plenty of folks who enjoy both their products and look forward to future developments.

As for FMs, errors and the like AH is no Utopia.

Eagler · « **Reply #26 on:** August 07, 2006, 02:09:23 PM »

I stink at IL/FB gunnery
But at the same time I wish AH was more like it as it is too easy and fights are over way too quick
it might be the damage model as well, wings don't fall apart with the frequency they do in AH

nothing harder for me than a real room in hyperlobby with no plane icons, no map icon and cockpits on - I feel like a baby seal everytime I enter one of those

LePaul · « **Reply #27 on:** August 07, 2006, 02:18:55 PM »

I can just imagine the tech support....

If their favortism against US planes is the same as they have with LockOn, be prepared for some uber Russian planes over any/all Allied ones.

SunKing · « **Reply #28 on:** August 07, 2006, 02:45:07 PM »

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Originally posted by LePaul
I can just imagine the tech support....

If their favortism against US planes is the same as they have with LockOn, be prepared for some uber Russian planes over any/all Allied ones.

We've been primed well vs the LA7 waves in the MA.

Waffle · « **Reply #29 on:** August 07, 2006, 03:12:28 PM »

Actually, just let me know when it's about week before it's release.