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« Reply #30 on: August 09, 2006, 10:29:22 PM »
IDF has confirmed that some of the dead with Hezbolla are actully IRG.  Hope you guys are catching the news.

Ahmadinejad is just a cheekbones.  I say we light up Iran the night before.

BTW Roll on IDF!!!  Kick Asss!!!!

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Iran to "light up the sky" on August 22?
« Reply #31 on: August 09, 2006, 11:14:29 PM »
If East vs West are going to war to start Judgement Day (TM), I'd move to East Asian countries (China, Japan, Korea, Philippines) where i don't have to deal with this religious suicidal crap on both sides.

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« Reply #32 on: August 09, 2006, 11:23:36 PM »
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If East vs West are going to war to start Judgement Day (TM), I'd move to East Asian countries (China, Japan, Korea, Philippines) where i don't have to deal with this religious suicidal crap on both sides.


 Then you don't want to go to the Philippines....

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« Reply #33 on: August 09, 2006, 11:26:50 PM »
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If East vs West are going to war to start Judgement Day (TM), I'd move to East Asian countries (China, Japan, Korea, Philippines) where i don't have to deal with this religious suicidal crap on both sides.


If it comes to a "Judgement Day" scale war one place will be as good, or bad, as the next within a short period. The fallout and nukuler winter and all.

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« Reply #34 on: August 09, 2006, 11:28:52 PM »
What scares me the most about the new age we live in as that there is no deterrent to the martyr or suicide bomber
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« Reply #35 on: August 09, 2006, 11:32:35 PM »
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2006/07/israel_iran_and.html

Geez....Just found this...Iran is saying that on August 22nd it will give it's reply to  the West's package of incentives for ending its nuclear program.
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« Reply #36 on: August 09, 2006, 11:38:14 PM »
We all know Iran and North Korea are to some degree in bed together...Could the Korean missile test on July 4, 2006 been a pre-cursor to what "may" happen on the 22nd?  Anyone know if there are any similarties with the missiles NK shot, and what Iran has in its arsenal?
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Iran to "light up the sky" on August 22?
« Reply #37 on: August 09, 2006, 11:43:39 PM »
Hi Tikky,

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If East vs West are going to war to start Judgement Day (TM), I'd move to East Asian countries (China, Japan, Korea, Philippines) where i don't have to deal with this religious suicidal crap on both sides.


Actually, you'll find the Jihad really is worldwide. Of late, for instance, Jihadis have been working overtime to add Thailand to the Dar-El-Islam -

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Wednesday, August 2, 2006 (Bangkok):
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A bomb planted along a railroad in southern Thailand exploded early on Wednesday, killing three policemen, a day after a huge spate of widespread, minor attacks by suspected Muslim separatists.

Another officer was injured in the attack in the Chana district of Songkhla province, which was believed to have targeted police who conduct daily inspections of tracks before the departure of morning trains, said police Lt. Col Sompien Eksomya.

The blast occurred at about 6:30 am (2300 GMT). Police found electrical wire leading from the tracks to bushes about 100 meters (330 feet) away, which they believe was used to trigger the explosion.

More than 1,500 people have been killed in Thailand's three Muslim-dominated provinces- Yala, Pattani and Narathiwat- since a resurgence of a violent Islamic separatist movement in January 2004.


There are also several Islamic Jihadist groups fighting to establish hegemony for "the religion of peace" in the Southern Phillipines, including Abu Sayyaf an Al-Qaeda affiliated organization.

There is even an embarassing Islamic insurgency in Western China (Xinjiang province or East Turkistan as the Jihadis call it). Chinese officials will admit to a death toll of 160 in 260 separate incidents over the past decade, but the actual death toll is probably much higher. Recently Xinhua (the official Chinese news agency) released a surprisingly frank report about the troubles...

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BEIJING, Sept. 5 (Xinhuanet) -- The "East Turkistan" terrorist forces remain to be the great terrorist threat to China at presentand in future, a Chinese anti-terrorist official said here Monday.

"In the last decade, the terrorist threats that China confronted with were mainly terrorist activities of 'East Turkistan' terrorist forces inside and outside Chinese territory, international terrorist groups and terrorists," said Zhao Yongchen, deputy director of the Anti-Terrorism Bureau under the Ministry of Public Security.

"The terrorist activities carried out by the three terrorist forces have not only jeopardized China, but also posed a threat toregional security and stability," Zhao said.

On March 27, 2003, the East Turkistan Liberation Organization hijacked a passenger bus of a Xinjiang company, killed all the 21 passengers and the driver and set the bus on fire with the bodies inside it.

The three terrorist forces openly summon the extremists inside China to carry out terrorist activities aiming at kindergartens, schools and government, or attack Chinese armed forces and government agencies, with means of explosives and poison.

The forces, he said, have also become part of the international terrorist forces. "They have close ties and even align with terrorist groups including the Taliban, the Uzbekistan Islamic Liberation Movement and Al Qaeda."

According to Zhao, many members of the "East Turkistan" forces have received military training in terrorist bases in central and south Asia and directly have taken part in terrorist activities sponsored by owners of the bases.


There simply isn't anywhere on earth you can really simply escape from the Jihadis, unless of course you are a Penguin.

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« Reply #38 on: August 10, 2006, 12:01:55 AM »
whoa, those mother****ers  doing that **** in China are really suicidal.  They better pray the billion-man Chinese PLA won't do something bad on their group or their country origin.

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« Reply #39 on: August 10, 2006, 12:13:30 AM »
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Did you miss the part "from another country" in my initial post?


No Charge, not at all.  In fact, I think you make a very good point here. Since I agreed wholly with you, I didn't bring it up.

My point is, really, that everyone who thinks Isreal should reply to force with like force would probably go thru their collective roof if Israel began to launch hundreds of rockets into Lebanon indiscriminately.
Yet these same people complain that Isreal has overreacted.

Arguments aside, put yourself in Isreal's position.  The hezbos sporadically launch rockets at your cities, with no specific goals other than to kill as many civilians as possible.  Wouldn't you eventually get fed up with Lebanon's inability/refusal to put a stop to this? Doesn't there come a time for you when you decide that your citizens ought to be allowed to live in peace within your own borders and the only way to accomplish this is to eradicate the rocket firing, civilian-clothes-wearing perpetrators?

When is it too much?

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« Reply #40 on: August 10, 2006, 12:31:32 AM »
Can anyone link an actual "legit" news agency... CNN, BBC, anything, that reports what the linked blogs have said?  Especially about Iran promising to give their reaction on August 22 to the West's demands that they end their Nuclear program?

And as I read in the link in your initial post, Seagoon, it looked like the Iranian President's competitor was the one who claimed the Iranian President said such things?

It's not that I necessarily think this is an overreaction (is this really the sort of thing one can afford to underestimate?), but I'd just like to see a few more sources before I make up my mind, for what it's worth (pretty much, nothing, granted).
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« Reply #41 on: August 10, 2006, 01:11:49 AM »
Hello Vudak,

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Can anyone link an actual "legit" news agency... CNN, BBC, anything, that reports what the linked blogs have said?  Especially about Iran promising to give their reaction on August 22 to the West's demands that they end their Nuclear program?


Yes the August 22nd date is legitimate and was set by Iran in response to UN pressure (they wanted a much earlier response). The following is from Reuters:

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 TEHRAN, July 13 (Reuters) - Iran said on Thursday it would not abandon its right to nuclear technology in a defiant statement after Tehran's case was sent back to the U.N. Security Council over its atomic dispute with the West.

But U.S. President George W. Bush kept up the pressure saying Tehran could not "wait us out" and Germany warned "other steps" would be necessary if Tehran did not respond to a package to rein in its atomic work.

Five permanent Security Council members, the United States, France, Britain, Russia, China, plus Germany backed a package calling for Iran to halt uranium enrichment in return for economic and diplomatic incentives. But on Wednesday they asked the council to intervene after Tehran failed to reply.

"Our answer to the P5+1 package is clear, the Iranian nation abides by international laws and regulations but will not abandon its obvious right to obtain nuclear technology," Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was quoted as saying by state TV.

The West says Iran wants to enrich uranium to produce atomic bombs, a charge Iran denies. It has refused to halt the work.

"We are trying to investigate the proposed package positively," Ahmadinejad said in comments carried by Iran's Fars news agency, but repeated that Iran would give its final reply by Aug. 22 despite pressure for a swifter response.


For several weeks the west was wondering, "why August 22nd?" Gradually however, consensus is building that Ahmadinejad picked an Islamic Holy Day with a connection to Jerusalem specifically to make a high profile symbolic gesture. The best case scenario is that once again he thumbs his nose at the west on the enrichment question, the worst is the stuff of nightmares...

In any event, it's becoming increasingly obvious that Iran filling Southern Lebanon with short and medium range missiles and then sending in Hezbollah to do a highly provocative raid followed by the largest series of barrages yet, was planned well in advance. Iran has deliberately baited Israel into a proxy war on their terms, I hardly expect their only goals are to generate bad PR for Israel and give them a bloody nose.

My general read is that Ahmadinejad is specifically attempting to jump start a regional Jihad against Israel - so far the Arab league has resisted that impulse, but given the increasing level of protests amongst the umma in their own countries he may get what he wants - especially if he can provoke an Israeli response against a major power like Iran - which is precisely what they want.

Their sense, right or wrong is that Israel has never been weaker, that western support for Israel is evaporating, and that America is too over-extended and politically hamstrung to intervene. Israel's failure to quickly roll-over Hezbollah and recent change of strategic command will only have encouraged that theory.
 
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« Reply #42 on: August 10, 2006, 01:16:16 AM »
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Hello Vudak,

 

Yes the August 22nd date is legitimate and was set by Iran in response to UN pressure (they wanted a much earlier response). The following is from Reuters:



For several weeks the west was wondering, "why August 22nd?" Gradually however, consensus is building that Ahmadinejad picked an Islamic Holy Day with a connection to Jerusalem specifically to make a high profile symbolic gesture. The best case scenario is that once again he thumbs his nose at the west on the enrichment question, the worst is the stuff of nightmares...

In any event, it's becoming increasingly obvious that Iran filling Southern Lebanon with short and medium range missiles and then sending in Hezbollah to do a highly provocative raid followed by the largest series of barrages yet, was planned well in advance. Iran has deliberately baited Israel into a proxy war on their terms, I hardly expect their only goals are to generate bad PR for Israel and give them a bloody nose.

My general read is that Ahmadinejad is specifically attempting to jump start a regional Jihad against Israel - so far the Arab league has resisted that impulse, but given the increasing level of protests amongst the umma in their own countries he may get what he wants - especially if he can provoke an Israeli response against a major power like Iran - which is precisely what they want.

Their sense, right or wrong is that Israel has never been weaker, that western support for Israel is evaporating, and that America is too over-extended and politically hamstrung to intervene. Israel's failure to quickly roll-over Hezbollah and recent change of strategic command will only have encouraged that theory.
 
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Thanks for the clarification, Seagoon.

Let's hope that best case scenario is, in fact, what transpires.

(And failing that, let's at least hope Russia, China, Pakistan, and India, amongst others, are ok with the Israeli and/or US response).
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« Reply #43 on: August 10, 2006, 01:20:40 AM »
As I mentioned, I remain doubtful that Iran would "nuke" Jerusalem, at least with a near ground burst. Something much higher to destroy Israel's electronic/electric capability with the emp without killing people seems more likely and would certainly "light up the sky". Israel would probably be unable to respond. I'm not sure how the US should respond, perhaps in kind.

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« Reply #44 on: August 10, 2006, 05:37:51 AM »
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If East vs West are going to war to start Judgement Day (TM), I'd move to East Asian countries (China, Japan, Korea, Philippines) where i don't have to deal with this religious suicidal crap on both sides.

LMFAO...avoid the east v west fight by goinig to Korea?

Oh yeah, it is north v south there, guess you do have a point
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