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Offline Mustaine

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« Reply #15 on: August 15, 2006, 09:28:48 AM »
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why is it, i am not kidding EVERY time anyone links to amazon to a specific product, i get a blank link that never loads anything but the header of the page?!?:furious


it is only amazon, and it is every link i have ever clicked on for amazon.

in my entire internet life i have never had a link to amazon work ever.

i can go there and search something out myself, but even google shopping links, or "buy the dvd" from other sites will not properly link to amazon EVER.


i have personally given up ever using that site for anything ever.
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« Reply #16 on: August 15, 2006, 09:31:05 AM »
After watching some of the Penn and Teller video which included the towers crashing I noticed that the first tower to collapse obviously did so from the point at which the plane impacted. The top part of the tower basically began to fall intact upon the part below the impact. If explosives were planted they would have had to been detonated at that point. This means that the plane would have had to hit that predesignated point exactly or that explosives would have had to be planted at various probable impact points and detonated only at the impact point.

I really oughta go into the sign making business. There's gotta be a killing to be made on the "I want to believe" signs.

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« Reply #17 on: August 15, 2006, 09:31:42 AM »
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check out the other thread for part of my response to this.  To the popular Mechanics study itself:

I did review it some time ago and found it extremely sketchy.  They claim to have a large body of experts, "PM consulted more than 300 experts and organizations in its investigation into 9/11 conspiracy theories." but then just list some at the end.  Also, most of the 'quotes' they use are so called experts saying something like "That's bull. They're really stretching.".  There wasn't much actual substance that hasn't been proven to be a lie.  

Paul Joseph Watson puts it best:
http://www.infowars.com/articles/sept11/debunking_popular_mechanics_myths.htm

If PM is so scholarly, why don't they include scholarly documentation in their article?  Because they're a 'popular' magazine and not a scholarly one.  If Boys Life or Readers Digest tried to run an article like this I wouldn't believe it either.  PM has its own interests at heart (hard to blame them for protecting their own interests, even if they do decieve their readers), and not the interests of the American People.  In this case they're about as fact based as Harry Anslinger was.


They probably don't fill their reports with endnotes and references because they are a magazine.  That doesn't mean they haven't done their digging, it just means you're going to have a hard time verifying it.

Since you used the Roman History example, read a Stephen Dando Collins book.  He doesn't use endnotes either, and it can make referencing him a great pain in the butt.  The best you'll get is "Tacitus tells us that..." And then you have to go digging through the Annals to make sure Collins didn't just make that up.  Of course, after some frustration with Tacitus' habit of skipping around chronologically, you eventually find what Collins was talking about.
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« Reply #18 on: August 15, 2006, 09:51:35 AM »
68Hawk, like Agent Molder's poster says, you "Want to Believe". Don't worry too much though, it just means you think more than average and you have an above avg imagination.

But so did the unibomber and the guy who blew up the gubmit building in OK city.

Usually indulging in these conspiracy theories is a sign of an athletic mind that is bored. Find a hobby or something where you can put these energies into more productive pursuits.

It will also help you grow more comfortable with the rocky hard earth  of reality so you won't turn to booze or drugs or church.

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« Reply #19 on: August 15, 2006, 09:57:11 AM »
So  68hawk is post ban whitehawk?

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« Reply #20 on: August 15, 2006, 09:59:12 AM »
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68Hawk, like Agent Molder's poster says, you "Want to Believe". Don't worry too much though, it just means you think more than average and you have an above avg imagination.

But so did the unibomber and the guy who blew up the gubmit building in OK city.

Usually indulging in these conspiracy theories is a sign of an athletic mind that is bored. Find a hobby or something where you can put these energies into more productive pursuits.

It will also help you grow more comfortable with the rocky hard earth  of reality so you won't turn to booze or drugs or church.



68hawk as a Christian.... "OMG it was a conspiracy by Jesus’ men to have him killed!!!" :rofl

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« Reply #21 on: August 15, 2006, 12:33:09 PM »
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dang Sandy you really ought to clean house on your side of the aisle with a flamethrower or something.


My side of the aisle?
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« Reply #22 on: August 15, 2006, 01:27:54 PM »
america.. land of free speech until you dare to have a different opinion on a matter..

in which case you are called/made out to be a wacko.
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« Reply #23 on: August 15, 2006, 01:29:28 PM »
68Hawk...

With a turned shoulder, George W. Bush is still allowing the  communists to put flouride in our water!  Haliburton is manufacturing the flouride, which is being sold to the Russian's, which in turn is being put into our water and jeopardizing our precious bodily fluids...

Elvis is still alive....

The sun is actually A BAD THING....

Black Helicopters fly over my house

and Laguna Beach, AND the O.C. are REAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



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« Reply #24 on: August 15, 2006, 01:43:09 PM »
Id agree P&T dont have alot of time to present a documentary, I think they pretty much use common sense on most things and try to show the contrast between the viewpoints.  Even in the wicked world we live in, I cant accept that our government would sacrifice so many civilains in order to carry out an agenda.

  If anything ever leaked out, they would be strung up so quick your head would spin. I dont think even our power hungry, greedy politicians would risk that.

   At the very most...I could see them perhaps being aware that an attack of some sort may be in the making, and hold back to use it as a tool to kindle the war, but to say they orchestrated it is going a bit too far.

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« Reply #25 on: August 15, 2006, 01:46:41 PM »
68....A few Simple Questions.......

1-  Have you ever dismantled your toaster to search for surveillance devices?
2-  Take a long, close look at your socks. How sure are you that they're the exact same pair you put on this morning and that no-one's replaced them with a different but similar pair at some point?

3-You're at a party and an attractive member of the opposite sex asks you for your phone number. Do you:
a- Give it to them?
b- Give them a false one?
c-  Punch them in the face, leave the party quickly, change taxis twice on the way home, burn your house down and move to another country?
d-  Go along with it in the hope they'll have sex with you, then blow their head off before they can betray you?
e-  Get them blind drunk and trepan their skull to search for alien implants?

10- Your mother pays you a surprise visit. Do you:
A-  Welcome her in, hug her, fix her a drink, etc?
B-  Ask her if she's alone?
C-  Get your alleged 'mother' in a headlock, stick a gun in her mouth and threaten to blow her head off unless she recites her maiden name and birthdate backwards in the next ten seconds?
D-  Blow her head off on general principles - your real mother knows better than to visit without giving the pre-arranged code signal?
E-  Chloroform her and trepan her skull to search for alien implants?

4-  5. Is your social security number
A-  A necessary means to an efficient social welfare net?
B-  An unwarrantable intrusion of government into private life?
C-  The fulfillment of that bit in the Book of Revelations about the Mark of the Beast?
D-  The alien equivalent of a 'Best Consumed Before' date?


***And finally...Upon reaching question three and seeing it labeled 10, obviously breaking pattern, did you look over your shoulder, and check the telephone for strange "clicks"?
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« Reply #26 on: August 15, 2006, 01:47:55 PM »
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america.. land of free speech until you dare to have a different opinion on a matter..

in which case you are called/made out to be a wacko.


So you have reviewed his material and you call him normal Furby?;)

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« Reply #27 on: August 15, 2006, 03:37:42 PM »
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america.. land of free speech until you dare to have a different opinion on a matter..

in which case you are called/made out to be a wacko.


It's the land of the free. Anyone is free to be a whacko of they choose. ;)
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« Reply #28 on: August 16, 2006, 06:49:21 PM »



FOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOO W MEEEEEEEEEEE 68!!!!!!!!!!

I WILL TAKE YOU TO MY LEADER!
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« Reply #29 on: August 16, 2006, 08:08:39 PM »
Try and fly an airliner of that size into a predetermined spot on an object not to much wider than a runway at a pretty fast speed while in a turn.

That's what would have had to happen for explosive theory to have any type of validity.

I'm willing to bet that it's not that easy for even a good airline pilot to accomplish let alone an amature or remote control.