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« Reply #105 on: August 21, 2006, 09:54:43 AM »
or.   How about limiting the number of LVT's able to spawn at a friendly Port?   If the Feld is a field of "Capture", then do not apply the above.
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« Reply #106 on: August 21, 2006, 11:41:38 AM »
Thanks for post Sullie.  I enjoyed hearing about it.  I know exactly why the moment is worth a post.  WTG all who were involved.  I've not flow much at all over the last year or so.  Posts like yours inspire me to enjoy playing again.

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« Reply #107 on: August 21, 2006, 12:41:18 PM »
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Ahhh, now the real story comes out.  We're talking situational ethics.

Situational ethics don't exist, slapshot.  If ethics are variable, they aren't ethics--they're just suggestions.  Ethical individuals act in an ethical manner in all things, not just when it's convenient or fun.

You see, that's part of the problem, my boy.  You live like you play.  If you act dishonorably on the playing field, you will act dishonorably in your day-to-day interactions.

In other words, nobody can trust you.  You would screw them as quickly as you would an opponent in the game.  You have no honor.  Even defending Zazen's position is to throw away your personal honor, and to show that you are ethically challenged.

The game world is a pseudo world, but you aren't a pseudo person, and your interactions with others aren't pseudo interactions.  

Now do you finally get it, or are you so blind that you will not see?


Nice try shubie ...
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« Reply #108 on: August 21, 2006, 01:04:14 PM »
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Never needed one. I ultimately learned from my parents and others how to play fair, and being the father of three boys, I hope that those values will continue on indefinitely.


So then you would believe that a map flaw that allows a CV group to spawn right next to its port and spawn endless amounts of LVTs on dry land so that they can drop supplies ... end sortie ... spawn ... drop supplies ... end sortie ... repeat ad nauseum ... to be "fair" gameplay?
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« Reply #109 on: August 21, 2006, 01:12:31 PM »
It's quite simple, Slap.

Ethics in AH 101

Anything (you/your squad/country/mission/people you like) does to gain an advantage in the game is ethical. Anything the bad guys do to either accomplish the same thing, or prevent you from doing so, is unethical.

Get it?
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« Reply #110 on: August 21, 2006, 03:27:09 PM »
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Had Bish had someone online at the time that out-ranked Lynx on Rooks, don't think for a nano-second they wouldn't have done exactly what I did a year ago. They chose the 2 hour + tank drive only because they lacked the Ranking person, not because of some decision based on abstract morals or game ethics


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« Reply #111 on: August 21, 2006, 03:29:52 PM »
ok i'll take a bite at this.........
this thread is first all about how the bish overcame a base...ok cool with me, i like reading positive things

then it turns to a "bug" on the map........i don't follow, what's the bug?  there's been a bunch of times i've seen lvt's spawn feet dry....no bigs

then it turns into "this guy on this country switched to my country with high rank to keep the cv out of lvt range...........ok that's shady but whatever, it's a game right?

then it goes into ethics of an online game.......ummmm........uhhhh .....ok....i have no comment on that......


my point is, what is this thread really about???????????
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« Reply #112 on: August 21, 2006, 03:39:50 PM »
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Yup, I actually only had control of the CV for 30-45 seconds, that moved it the 300 yards needed to prevent LVT's from spawning dry directly at the port to instantly re-supply it. That beat the hell out of a 2 Hr. + drive 30 miles real distance in a tank to "maybe" get the job done, maybe not...


Zazen


This is  a clear-cut confession to a serious infraction..How long must we wait before this man/woman is brought to justice ???

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« Reply #113 on: August 21, 2006, 03:45:28 PM »
^^:rofl :lol :rofl

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« Reply #114 on: August 21, 2006, 04:42:37 PM »
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This is  a clear-cut confession to a serious infraction..How long must we wait before this man/woman is brought to justice ???


:rofl  Infraction? Justice? :rofl
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« Reply #115 on: August 21, 2006, 05:23:15 PM »
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then it turns to a "bug" on the map........i don't follow, what's the bug?  there's been a bunch of times i've seen lvt's spawn feet dry....no bigs


OK, I'll state this one more time as clearly as I can.

Yes, many times a fleet can get so close it can spawn LVT's feet dry, that in itself is not the issue. This is a bug in the map because the point at which a fleet respawns is set as part of building the map, it is not random. This particular map was built so that the fleet in question respawns next to its HOME port (the one you have to take to "capture" the fleet) so close that you can instantly resupply it and bring ack back up. No other fleet respawns so close that it can instantly resupply its home port. Killing the fleet has no effect because you can continue to spawn LVT's after its dead. It is a map bug plain and simple.

So, there are two ways to take this port:

Someone with enough rank changes sides and moves the CV 200-300yds away from the port (thats all it takes).

OR

Drive two+ hours in a GV from a base a sector+ away.

Last year Rooks had a player of high enough rank to switch and take control of the CV. This year the Bish didnt so they drove GVs.

My only real beef is that the Bish pretend that if they had had a player ranking higher than any Rook that they still would have driven GV's a sector+ away which is nonsense.

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« Reply #116 on: August 21, 2006, 05:43:22 PM »
sorry grits that doesnt hold water...

purpose of this post was obviously to congratulate bish on not cheating...dont see how that has you believing they would if the opportunity presented...2 highest ranked squads are bish...im sure there would have been someone with rank on at some point.

secondly...there is a third way to take this airfield....bypass it....and come back later when it is moved....that cv is rarely in port unless it is fresh killed...i hate to bring a concept such as strategy into this highminded discussion but it is how that port is usually taken...

instead you continue to ignore/condone the point that one person's actions (misdeeds) can affect the gameplay of 50+ people trying to play the game within the rules.
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« Reply #117 on: August 21, 2006, 05:44:48 PM »
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« Reply #118 on: August 21, 2006, 06:05:41 PM »
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sorry grits that doesnt hold water...

purpose of this post was obviously to congratulate bish on not cheating...


Zazen switching sides (an intentional component of the game) is cheating, but exploiting a known bug in the map is not? Please explain, I want to hear this. And yes, I do believe that if the Bish had a person with the rank to move that CV they would have, for you to deny that is downright silly at best, disingenuous at worst.

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instead you continue to ignore/condone the point that one person's actions (misdeeds) can affect the gameplay of 50+ people trying to play the game within the rules. [/B]


Zazen used a function of the game HT put there on purpose to move the CV, while the other side exploited a bug in the map, yet you say Zazen commited the misdeed? Please explain.

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« Reply #119 on: August 21, 2006, 06:28:38 PM »
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Anyone who want to drive that far deserves a reward and in this case a port and cv ...

nah ... better yet ...

Anyone who want to drive that far deserves a frontal lobotomy.


Well.... I was trying to be nice and your darn right.  Once again Bish prove to be better on the ground than in the air :D