Fears of revenge attacks on stingrays over Irwin death

[Saintaw]

Originally posted by Goth

 

What movie is this?

[lasersailor184]

[Vulcan]

Well, every summer I have at least a few extremely close (within a foot of me in chest deep water) encounters with these guys:



and I wouldn't consider myself a risk taker.

[Elfie]

Originally posted by Vulcan
Well, every summer I have at least a few extremely close (within a foot of me in chest deep water) encounters with these guys:



and I wouldn't consider myself a risk taker.

Considering how docile those are, I wouldn't consider you a risk taker either.

Otoh, if I saw you picking up poisonous snakes by the tail instead of with one of those sticks with a metal hook on the end.....I would think you were crazy and taking unnecessary risks.

[eagl]

Don't go all gushy about how Cousteau was different (ie. nicer to animals) than Irwin...  Read his book "The Silent World" and then tell me what you think.  It used to be common for Cousteau and his crew to go out and harpoon a dozen sharks in the name of oceanic science.  They spent a week or two testing various anti-shark harpoons, including ones with explosive tips.

Cousteau was a GREAT oceanographic researcher, but don't get all weepy and holier than thou about his approach to his science.  He quite willingly touched off grenades in schools of fish and harpooned/shot many whales, dolphin, etc. in the name of science.  I don't recall Irwin harpooning or grenading a single croc, gator, or stingray...

[moot]

And he used to make the most derogatory remarks about the wildlife he filmed, too.

[eagl]

On Cousteau and his crew messing with animals...

"Dumas siezed the nettle one day, by pulling an octopus from a cliff.  He was somewhat apprehensive, but it was a small octopus and Didi felt he was too large a drink for it.  If Dumas was timid, the octopus was downright terrorized.  It writhed desperately to escape the four-armed monster, and succeeded in breaking loose...  Soon we were handling any size of cephalopod we found."

Anyhow, my point is that a lot of people have a rather ignorant view of what Irwin did simply because he enjoyed his work and had a tv show.  He didn't do half the stuff to animals that researchers like Cousteau did, but people get all up in arms about the stuff he did for the show.

[Mini D]

It comes as no shock at all that Steve Irwin should die provoking a dangerous animal, PETA's Dan Mathews tells The Scoop. He made a career out of antagonizing frightened wild animals, which is a very dangerous message to send to kids.

This isn't "Drag through the mud". I guarantee this person would have said the same things about him prior to his death. Playing as if he we something other than a person that made a living off of provoking animals and displaying how "brave" he was while doing it is where people start going off the deep end. His death did nothing to change that... no matter how "harmless" rays are and no matter how dangerous he was trying to make them look for a movie titled "dangerous animals and the idiots that hang out with them."

[Angus]

Stingray belongs to the family of "skate" right? (not sure of the word in English".

Anyway, up here we eat those

Need special processing, but are tasty in an "ammonium" way, just like the shark

[xrtoronto]

Originally posted by Saintaw
What movie is this?

The Life Aquatic (Wes Anderson Director)

[FUNKED1]

Encounter with highly abnormal sharklike fish!



Ten meters in length,
unfamiliar dorsal features, spots all over it!



I shot it dorsally with a homing dart!



Esteban was eaten!



Check the scanning monitor!
Start tracking before it dives too deep!



- Esteban was bitten?
- Eaten!



- Is he dead?
- Esteban was eaten!



- He was swallowed whole?
- No! Chewed!



Check the scanning monitor!



He's got hydrogen psychosis.
Crazy-eye.



Steve, we think
you got crazy-eye.



- Get him out of the ****ing water.
- Esteban!



- Esteban! Esteban!
- Why'd you throw it over?



- Esteban! Esteban!

[Bluedog]

Originally posted by Goth
[B killing stingrays out of fear or revenge is just silly. Never thought I would call an Aussie silly, but I just did. [/B]

Australia is no differant to any other country in the world in that we have vast numbers of idiots, imbeciles, morons, bananas and complete stunninghunks spread throughout our population, many of them are ridgy didge, fair dinkum Aussies.

Go killing stingrays out of some sort of revenge for Steve Erwin's death though, and wether you were born here and have lifetime citizenship or not, you are no true Aussie.
Rather just another complete moron who happens to be a resident of Australia. There is a differance. ( Comments from residents of NZ on this matter don't count  )


BTW it is more than 'silly', it is downright pointless wanton destruction and extreme cruelty to an animal.
It is allso a criminal offence under both Australian federal and Queensland state laws to remove a native animal or plant from a national park or reserve.
The entire Great Barrier Reef, and a vast majority of the waters off Qld's coast is one big marine reserve.

[ReyPirin]

Oh Teh Irony.

[DREDIOCK]

Originally posted by eagl
Don't go all gushy about how Cousteau was different (ie. nicer to animals) than Irwin...  Read his book "The Silent World" and then tell me what you think.  It used to be common for Cousteau and his crew to go out and harpoon a dozen sharks in the name of oceanic science.  They spent a week or two testing various anti-shark harpoons, including ones with explosive tips.

Cousteau was a GREAT oceanographic researcher, but don't get all weepy and holier than thou about his approach to his science.  He quite willingly touched off grenades in schools of fish and harpooned/shot many whales, dolphin, etc. in the name of science.  I don't recall Irwin harpooning or grenading a single croc, gator, or stingray...

ahhh I just love when people hold histories people to todays standards.

In his day Couteau was a great naturalist.

So was Teddy Roosvelt in his day. And he had more then a few trophies on his walls lol

As much as I thought he was an A hole I will admit he was a great naturalist

Though I imagine 20-30 years from now people when applying him to their standards will talk about how horrible he really was too

[eagl]

Er dred...  I hope you're not aiming that at me, since my point was that people getting all weirded out over a guy stuffing his thumb up a gator's bum on tv is pretty stupid.

Cousteau always has been one of my personal heroes.  He lived and breathed science, even managing to do real research throughout WWII within his military role, and he did more to advance oceanographic science than any dozen of today's modern politically correct committee driven budget obsessed "researchers".

I was pointing out that molesting (and harpooning, exploding, etc) animals is pretty much standard for wildlife research and it's pretty stupid and emotionally reactionary to try to claim that Irwin's work was somehow lessened by how he interacted with the animals.  He could have been quietly blowing them up off camera and getting a lot of other valid research done, but instead he did his thing on TV.  Big deal.  People are jealous of how he had fun doing his job and they're trying to degrade his work by some BS remarks about how he just went around molesting animals...  Heck, if he was a chef we'd get to watch him dive, harpoon that stingray, haul it to the surface, then cook and eat it