Arena format change

[Dichotomy]

Originally posted by rpm
Texas residents pay sales tax.

That's UNFAIR!!! everybody else gets away with paying $15.  Well then I'm cancelling my account until this is made what I want it to be!!!!!.  This game obviously sucks!!! Geez...

(does anybody but me sense the sarcasm?)

[simshell]

Originally posted by BIGJ
Thiss belongs i a book.

thought i would reply  to this

i write poetry as one of my main life hobbies and iv made about 92 poems in a year and half of writing

and i just thought to have some fun and write a poem about all this whining

[Grits]

Actually, on further thought, I think they should take this farther. HTC should break it down into an arena for each year of the war with a cap of 50 players in each one.

[Dichotomy]

Originally posted by simshell
thought i would reply  to this

i write poetry as one of my main life hobbies and iv made about 92 poems in a year and half of writing

and i just thought to have some fun and write a poem about all this whining

and well done sir

[rpm]

This reminds me of another great idea and how well it worked...

[doobs]

Originally posted by Grits
Actually, on further thought, I think they should take this farther. HTC should break it down into an arena for each year of the war with a cap of 50 players in each one.

might be a little too low I remember when arenas were 150 and ya just waited and clicked waited and clicked hopin to get the next open slot.

[4510]

Originally posted by Krusty
If you put in new arenas but no incentive to go TO those arenas, they go unused.

If you have to have an incentive... then you are trying to create a desire that doesn't exist.

If the idea appeals to the customer base, then the customer base will support it.  If they don't support it... the idea was a Turkey.

Put the limits on all arenas up around 600 and see where the customers go.  

Then you will know what the customer base wants... not what someone supposes they want.

[dtango]

Guppy -

My livelihood is based on making sweeping changes in global businesses.  Here's a simple formula regarding managing change...

current 0 / new + = high probability of successful change
current + / new + = high probability of successful change
current 0 / new 0 = good probability of successful change
current + / new - = high probability that change will be unsuccessful
current + / new 0 = good probability that change will be unsuccessful

In essence, anytime the new is less positive than the old, the success of a change is in jeopardy.

For squads like the 412th FS the current arena settings are a double whammy.  There are two negatives in the new setup that we have to overcome - 1) a love for the Mustang which is at odds with switching arenas, 2) flying together which is at odds with the way the arena capping works right now and the inability to find and message each other in real time to move to the same arena.

To make #1 a positive for me and others like me - HTC needs to give me some incentive that makes it a positive to fly other planes.  Simply stating that other planes exist so go fly them isn't enough of a tangible incentive.  I love the Mustang.  There's a reason I love the Mustang and choose that over other planes.  Give me a good, worthwhile, tangible incentive to fly something else besides the Mustang.

To make #2 a positive HTC needs to come up with some way to overcome either the cap limit issue and/or a way to figure out in realtime which squadmates are online, which arena they are in, and ways to communicate to them in realtime to go to the same arenas.  A squad MOTD message is not enough of a mechanism to do this with the current cap limits.

Tango, XO
412th FS Braunco Mustangs

[Saxman]

I think it's TERRIBLE. The numbers restrictions virtually ensure that someone's going to have a horde. And why do we need TWO late and early-war arenas?

[PropNut]

Ive been here since 99 beta ...early on ,AH was much more satisfying than it has become in the last 2 years. Why even have early war planes unless you keep the late war monsters away?  Its so tiring to try to fly early war planes only to be chased down and killed by 3 or 4 LA7s (usually a HO shot at that).
I think HT has made an exellent move that will give may of us much more 1v1 fights where ACM and SA actually mean something.  I think the new set-up is the only way he could go for future growth,the MA as it was is really getting old and I say thank God for a change.
 WTG HT.  From a continuous 6+ year subscriber I am glad you had the courage to change.  

[Simaril]

Ummm....I just had a really great time in the early arena, outnumbered, defending a base, and without radar.

I actually got HO'd by an f4f -- made me laugh out loud!

Thanks for something different. Though there are some legitimate issues to be worked out, this was a lot of fun.

You may now return to your regularly scheduled complaining.

[VgasX]

LMFAO if it's a HTC support post it stays on if you disagree with Hitech they delete your thread.

[tedrbr]

From what I saw tonight, I'd say no.... there, usually...is not enough population online to populate 4  arenas at the same time.

Now... I really LIKE being limited to certain era planes, (part of why i fly in the SEA) but I'm worried there will not be enough players and variety of maps to keep eveyone interested.

A possible solution would be a Late Era Map...with all rides available (traditional MA)  if you want to fly and early warbird against late war planes, why not?

.... and rotate on a weekly basis the Early and Mid War arenas.  

Should increase the population among 2 arenas rather than 4.... and possible allow a few more medium sized maps for variety.


Just a thought......

[SkyRock]

Originally posted by tedrbr
From what I saw tonight, I'd say no.... there, usually...is not enough population online to populate 4  arenas at the same time.

Now... I really LIKE being limited to certain era planes, (part of why i fly in the SEA) but I'm worried there will not be enough players and variety of maps to keep eveyone interested.

A possible solution would be a Late Era Map...with all rides available (traditional MA)  if you want to fly and early warbird against late war planes, why not?

.... and rotate on a weekly basis the Early and Mid War arenas.  

Should increase the population among 2 arenas rather than 4.... and possible allow a few more medium sized maps for variety.


Just a thought......

There are 2 late war arenas

[eh]

For the last 3 nights I have logged into the (now old) MA, got bored just looking at the map, what with the hordes (La7s, Spitup 16s, Nikis) milkrunning undefended bases, and it was so depressing thinking about yet another sortie in that sorry mess that I went to fighter town in desperation. I took one sortie in FT, and ran into a form of B17s, another of B26s and 2 forms of B24s low trying to destroy our field. IN FT! This is in addition to 2 A20s and a host of Jabos strafing our (Rooks) field. For our part, I saw 3 or 4 Rooks bombers taking off to pork the enemy fields in FT. Disgusted at the dweebery everywhere and on all sides, I logged, and seriously thought of giving up AH Arena play for Scenarios, and signing up for Warbirds scenarios also. That way, I could play every Sat and Sun flying WW2 Aircraft in simulated historical recreations.

Today I see we have three different Main Arenas corresponding to early- mid- and late-war.  I love the idea. For those who threaten to quit, and who have MSFFPro joysticks, drop me a PM with a price. As a dear Arab friend always says: "There is never an ill wind that doesn't blow SOMEONE some good!"

BTW this is NOT what killed Air Warrior. I was there to the last night when they turned the lights out. What killed it was the avarice of EA.COM, incredibly bad arena management within Air Warrior, a laughable FR flight model, and code so old that no one who worked for AW could modify it or advance its development much.  

Try the new AH Arenas for at least a week, gents. It has got to be an improvement over the stinking game play in the MA.