Arena format change

[Murdr]

Prime example of my earlier point.  

Originally posted by FALCONWING
WOW!! Hubs made another snide remark!!!:rolleyes:

Hubs im sorry you and your washed out buds have to make this game into an arcade.  It has truly been a joy to have you guys not in the arena whining like the girls you are...if this change has brought you back then im doubly against it...

Originally posted by hubsonfire
I'll bet a buck that it has nothing to do with the server, and that HT couldn't find you guys in a list.

I will say that you've become very representative of the type and style of gameplay that I personally hate, but that's just me.

"At some point the community, any community actually, can become too big to remain 'a community'. It fragments itself with conflicting priorities and intrests...Frankly any fracturing isn't being done by HTC. Its being done by a player base too difused and populace to put on any kind of unified front for community standards. "

[FALCONWING]

LOL murdr...you are actually comparing someone arguing with  a BK as being an example?


puhleease...these morons do nothing but snipe others for the sake of "fun".

Hub has even gotten 999000 (the absolutely freaking nicest guy in the game) upset with him.

[JB88]

i am a JB i am used to restrictions.  heh.

one more week and my system will be in my hands, ready to try out this new format.  i will suspend judgement until then.  it has been a good long time since i have been a regular participant.

i am concerned about how this will break up the community but i am not yet ready to believe that HTC doesnt have some sort of master plan that they are following.

i'll wait and see how it works when i play.  if i hate it, i just wont have the urge to play.  

i liked the old system enought to order a vid card and select a computer that i dont need, just to play it.  
mostly it is the people.  it takes a long time to get those.

i have been around here for almost 2 years i think, and i have met some amazing souls.

if it doesnt work, we'll see each other at the next table, with the next big thing happening.

while i am not one to think of change as a bad thing; change is neccessary on all levels.  if it is new coke the numbers will show it and they will have a choice in the matter then...bring back the classic or stand firm in a smaller market.

the choice, ultimately, is ours.  we can either indulge or not, but threats do us a disservice.  the numbers will speak for themselves.

if you want to leave, leave.  tell us where it is better and we will try it...maybe even follow.

 when things get made by commitee they can take an unbearably long time to get things moving.  this makes a move like this a good thing.  i would like to see more.  i would like to see graphics become a major part of the experience.  i would like to be part of a thing that grows better with age.

i like the fact that i still see hitech answer questions on the boards from time to time.   it shows a connection with a community that is rare and an accessability that is uncommon on a global market.  i can call skuzzy.  that is awesome.

i believe that HTC will listen carefully to your input and adjust accordingly, and i also believe that there are times when a change must be, even if it is a bad one, and so long as it is fixed for the betterment of the product.

i love this game.  have since i started.

the possibilities which exist in my mind are massive.  you would hate them.

so let's see how it pans out.

hitech, if i come back and leave, you know my vote.

if i stay....well there it is.

good luck gents.



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[storch]

the most fun I've had in AH in a while.  the early war arena was full of great fights and even better whines from the late war pre pubescent whiners complaining the tha La7 arena was empty.  great stuff, if nothing else the comedic value of the whines due to the change will give me the sporadic chuckles for weeks on end.  good job HTC.

[Grits]

Originally posted by FALCONWING
Hubs im sorry you and your washed out buds have to make this game into an arcade.

I hate to break it too you, but "our" type of gameplay was around long before yours was.

[2Slow]

I used to play a game that would make arbitrary changes and have the attitude of take it or leave it.  What was its name?  Air Warrior.

I hope this new system works.  I doubt that it will.

[Amigo]

I don't want to derail this fine discussion, but maybe if you guys could, check out the thread I started (author = Amigo ... it's my only one) and give some feedback?  I seriously think it's a good idea to satisfy all.

Would love for people to just soak it in, mull it over, and ponder the possibilities.  Then, probably flame my prettythang off as usual.  

[Grits]

That is not a vote, that is rent. You are a guest in HT's house.

[FALCONWING]

Originally posted by Grits
I hate to break it too you, but "our" type of gameplay was around long before yours was.

yep..and it died

and then they made the DA and Ava and it remained empty

whats it like being a dinosaur?

[akkobek]

Leave the early war arena for Hub and the boyz i want the old ma back.

[Murdr]

Originally posted by FALCONWING
LOL murdr...you are actually comparing someone arguing with  a BK as being an example?

puhleease...these morons do nothing but snipe others for the sake of "fun".

Exactly.  Replace "a BK" in that sentence with an ethnic group of your choice, and read it back.  Either way it's a stereotype of a distained group.  Looks like a fracture to me.

[Grits]

Originally posted by FALCONWING
whats it like being a dinosaur?

I'm still here 14 years later, how many of the "win the war" crowd can say that?

[2Slow]

Originally posted by FALCONWING
yep..and it died

and then they made the DA and Ava and it remained empty

whats it like being a dinosaur?

Good point, empty DA and AVA.  Hey lets split everything up!  Look how well AVA and the DA has been doing....DOINK

my absolute last word on the matter "MISTAKE"

[rshubert]

Originally posted by hubsonfire
I'll bet a buck that it has nothing to do with the server

I edited out the usual snide comments, hub...so that I can reply to the only sensible part of that post.

I will take that bet.  I would bet large bucks that one of the biggest factors is server and communications capacity.  Over the last several months, HTC has tried new servers, and a new network provider.  None has fixed the connection problems we have all witnessed.

Now, HTC will not ever admit that.  Dale seems to play his cards pretty close to the chest, and why not?  It's his business.  And he is ARROGANT, like most good, creative software developers.  It's his way or the highway.  Consult the community?? Why?? They don't know what they need--Hitech does!

As I posted in another venue, IMO they had two choices--somehow develop a faster, more robust and higher capacity communications engine, or split us up into smaller groups on multiple servers.  Guess which answer is cheaper?  

Servers are cheaper.  Much cheaper.  Software development is expensive, and time consuming.  Not to mention the fact that there is a great big wall they run into, called the internet.  You can only push so much data through a router so fast.  Adding routers helps, but only up to a point.  Soon, a practical limit is reached.  I think they reached it.  Now we have to pay the piper.

[Rolex]

I found:

 - the early-war arena was refreshingly fun. You never got to land kills in those airplanes in the old MA.

 - the mid-war arena plane set to be about what I expected before logging in and not disappointing at all.

 - the late-war arenas to be less interesting, probably because of the freshness of the other two arenas.

Change is good. I'm still a youngster (mid fifties), so I'm not as stuck in my ways as some of the really old geezers here...

(Note: latency was about 40% higher than normal today for me with large latency spikes (over 500 ms) ocurring at the final router before 206.16.60.39.)