New arena format Part 2 - Use this thread, don't open duplicates

[RacrX]

Double posting dork

[mussie]

Originally posted by RacrX
Double posting dork

Ahhhhh Bite Me X

[stickpig]

Originally posted by Lusche
Maybe because it came quite late in mid war era & has the performance of a spit 16?

The Mk. VIII was an adaptation of the Mk. VII without the pressurised cabin, and was intended to become the main production model of the Spitfire. In fact, by June 1943, it had all but replaced the Mk. IX.

http://www.answers.com/topic/supermarine-spitfire-variants

Seems like the Spit VIII was being used early 1943

[KTM520guy]

After two days it still sucks. Went on tonight looking for squadies. No such luck. The EA is always full during prime time. None in my squad like those birds anyway. Mid War was totaly dead. Maybe 50 or so people on. ENY values so screwed why even bother with this one. A few more on in Late War but no squadies to be found. My squad is big enough that there is always somebody on. They're all AH junkies. Right now I'm sure they're all rolled up in a ball in the corner going through withdrawl.

[soupcan]

Originally posted by Dichotomy


Couldn’t have said it better myself and subsequently will no longer address the subject.  

 

can only hope so ..but i'm pretty sure you'll be back with more of
your self important drivel.

as far as the thread goes i am ok with changes.

[4510]

Originally posted by WilldCrd
well we deffinatly disagree but thats ok.
Im big into a good conspiracy but, HTC isnt the govt. and this isnt a big brother control the populace and we decide what s and isnt good for ya.

You dont like the changes, we get that. but dont turn this into some conspiracy thing.

Haveing a late war arena with all planes enabled WOULD defeat the whole purpose of splitting up the MA.  

Well why would having all planes in a late war arena enabled defeat the purpose?

If, like you say, so many folks want a change... they have the other arenas with limited plane sets to fly in.  So those arenas would be populated with folks that want to fly like that, and the full plane set arena would be populated with the folks that like.. what was all that HO and tard stuff you said?

Not that our discussion changes anything... but the real message is just like I said.  They can't leave anything up that is like the old MA because the other "better" ideas might not fly.   To me that isn't anything close to free choice.. it is... "we will tell you what is good for you".

So we now have arena cap limits... so I don't have free choice to pick arena per se... I get in where the cap limit allows.   Then I have the choice of the planes "allowed" based upon what ever arena I could get in.  Then that choice is further limited by the ENY so I can use what is left or change my country.  

Oh.. and I spent the evening in EW ... and saw nothing more than horde fighting and folks in Spits trying to HO every chance they had.  The format has changed but the caliber of the pilots hasn't.

[ded]

I like the new format, however I think the earlier planesets need more fleshing out.  Having the f4 and a zeke as the only carrier fighters is very limiting, for example.

[AKWarp]

I'm not interested in "getting used" to this new arena mess.  I pay my money because the game offered something I thought was worth paying my money for.  This isn't some lab experiment where we have no choice...it's a business and when the business does things the clientele doesn't like, those clientele go elsewhere.

I've played it since it started and so far I think it stinks.  MW and LW are a joke, maybe 40-50 people tops in there.  I'm sure it's great for all the furballers though as that's about all that gets done.

Of course, EW isn't much better, more people sure, but a big ball of spits and hurris doing nothing but flying in circles because they can't catch the buffs, and don't carry enough ord to do anything worth while other than furball.  Sure, sure, there's the "uber" 190A5, but it's a perky plane...it's the 262 of the EW arena.

Blah....I'm not liking this change one bit.  I usually log on and play for hours, now I get bored 30 minutes into it.

Unless something changes again, for the better IMHO, then I'm just gonna canx the account and go back to WOW or something.

I know, no big loss, what do you care, but hey...just pitching my 0.02 worth like everyone else...

p.s. The door is propped open, so it won't hit me on the way out...

[gatt]

The EW player cap is low, AH2 hasnt enuff early war aircraft to fill the plane set decently and actually now there are some planes that should not be there ... a better move would have been to fill the holes in the planeset and then change the arenas structure ... but what the hell do we paying customers know? For sure the furballers have a great lobbying power in this game.

[Sable]

Originally posted by stickpig
In fact, by June 1943, it had all but replaced the Mk. IX.

http://www.answers.com/topic/supermarine-spitfire-variants

That part appears to be incorrect.  In July 1943 the RAF had around 45 Spitfire squadrons based in Britain - not a single one was equipped with the Mk VIII (taken from this document which came from this page).  The IX became the mainstay of the RAF in the second half of the war.

Mk V production - over 6000
Mk IX production - over 5000
Mk VIII production - over 1200

Sorry for the hijack.  I'll go back to lurking and you may now return to your regularly scheduled whining.

[MIShill]

The low numbers and imbalance may make this impractical. 14 v 8 v 6 in a tactical arena is a formula for toolshedding & vulching. Time will tell.......
-MI-

[Iron_Cross]

Has anybody considered the fact that this is a good thing?

Consider the fact that most of the planes asked for in the wish list forum, were early and mid war rides.  Now we can have them and they not be hangar queens in the OLD style MA.  I mean seriously who would take out a F2A2 Buffalo when as soon as you leave the runway you get OWNED by a LA-7/Spit XVI/something that totaly outclassed you?  

The PTB have done this because they "expect an influx of new players"  Could it be that CT is getting close?  CT is the only thing on the block, that I can think of, that would draw new players.  

Everybody gets what they want.  As soon as CT comes out, we get new planes coded up, and they get placed in era specific arenas.  We get to fly in arenas where you don't have to face a horde of LA-7s, if you don't want to.  Everybody gets good fights, because the maps are small, and the numbers are small so no HORDE.  What is not to like about that?  

If the only way you can be happy is by geting your .22 perkies for shooting down that SpitI in your LA-7 and running home to mommie, I say get the Hel out of here and don't let the door hit your prettythang on the way out.

[WilldCrd]

Well, I think there is also going to be a larg number of players that read the BBS , see all the negative stuff and dont even log in.
with any change there are going to be compramises i have faith HT will effect changes to get some of the bugs outlike the ENY thing. Ht has already stated they are going to implement a system to "talk/chat" across arena's
and take a hard look at the issues that have been brought up. paticularly when several ppl bring up the same exact issue. It wont all happen overnight, and it might not be the "fix" that SOME ppl want. It might not be what "some" want. and they might not address every single issue.

I do beleive that one thing we can all do as players is try to be proactive and effect change ourselves. one of the things i always liked about HTC and AH2 is that the players also can effect the way things work. By that I mean getting ppl together meeting up in a particular arena,  If there arent enough ppl in 1 arena then contact your squaddies, freinds whoever and get them together.
Dont just complain for what just YOU want but work together to make the game better for all, thereby making the game better for you

[zorstorer]

Originally posted by Iron_Cross
...Now we can have them and they not be hangar queens in the OLD style MA.  I mean seriously who would take out a F2A2 Buffalo when as soon as you leave the runway you get OWNED by a LA-7/Spit XVI/something that totaly outclassed you?...

It was very fun to spank the spit 16 with your trusty hurri mk1  Now where do I go for my fun?

[Guppy35]

Originally posted by Sable
That part appears to be incorrect.  In July 1943 the RAF had around 45 Spitfire squadrons based in Britain - not a single one was equipped with the Mk VIII (taken from this document which came from this page).  The IX became the mainstay of the RAF in the second half of the war.

Mk V production - over 6000
Mk IX production - over 5000
Mk VIII production - over 1200

Sorry for the hijack.  I'll go back to lurking and you may now return to your regularly scheduled whining.

VIII was intended for overseas use and never operated from England.  First ones finally getting to the squadrons in the MTO in mid 43 or so.  It NEVER replaced the Spit IX which remained in production longer then the VIII til the end of the war and was produced in far bigger numbers.