Author Topic: New arena format Part 2 - Use this thread, don't open duplicates (Read 44610 times)

lazs2 · « **Reply #315 on:** September 15, 2006, 03:19:01 PM »

I don't really like one on ones much either for the most part... I love 5 on 7's or 7 on 7's... or 30 on 25's or whatever. why couldn't that happen?

My point is that you have the same planes to choose from and the same amount of players to use these resources yet.... you can't play the way you want?

What do you want? you are going to have to lay it out for me cause I don't understand. 70 people is still 70 people.

lazs
Public Relations Officer for the BK's

Guppy35 · « **Reply #316 on:** September 15, 2006, 03:19:55 PM »

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Originally posted by DaPup
I'm not so sure about your reasoning there Dan, I liked having 500 people in the arena but didn't really care for the land grab. If I wanted to have good 1 on 1 fights I went to the DA.

I'm sure the change won't bother me a bit but all the people knocking the other players down for voicing their opinions is about as helpful as them complaining about a change they have no control over.

Not everyone is going to like the changes and keep their accounts active...that's life...there was, and is, more to the game though than just "good fights", if there wasn't then why have the ability to record a rank and "win" the war.

I think in the long term this will make alot more people happy than unhappy and any kinks will be worked out...give them time.

I guess I should clarify it better. I have no problem with folks reasonably voicing their concerns. Certainly there will be tweaks and changes as this goes along and that's all good.

I'm speaking more of the tantrums "I'm going to take my ball and go home" guys unwilling to give anything new a chance.

A quick stop in to the arenas this afternoon and it appears the single latewar MA is exactly what the MA used to be with all the planes enabled just not 500 people.

Skuzzy was referring to changes in the plane sets etc.

LYNX · « **Reply #317 on:** September 15, 2006, 03:19:56 PM »

OK, end of day 2 of the new set up. After reviewing my initial thoughts which are still in favour of the change. There are factors that I'm not best pleased with.

Yer it's HTC's business & I'm just renting player time but as a customer I feel I've taken a bit of a slap in the face.

No heads up on changes..... fair enough. He prolly didn't want the flak before we even seen or experienced the changes.

No detailed reasoning for adults to grasp. We get the briefist of explinations. Some of which talks of "data", "figures" that I hope haven't been founded on helium squeekers on their 6 weeks off school, or Influences by marketeers saying why they should pump more money into TV ads

No new features such as period peaces per arena or gaming features to aid squad chat. Nothing to supplement the changes. We get a promise of "things to come" and the 2 week thing is wearing a tad thin mates.

My thoughts are thus... not professional to stomp on your customers. Not professional to implement changes without added features / suplements and "HOW RUDE"

No I'm not cancelling me sub. Yes I'll hang in there. Do I expect things to settle down yes. HTC will iron out ENY and no mannable cv / ack in time but the slap in a customers face is well.....RUDE

I guess it was easier to implement this change than perk the hord planes and code out dive bombing, suicider bombers.

Eagler · « **Reply #318 on:** September 15, 2006, 03:21:55 PM »

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Originally posted by ByeBye
The MA should have been left and the others added. The palyer base is smart enough to fly were they want, withought being coerced into a decision.

well, that's where you are wrong .. bye byebye

DaPup · « **Reply #319 on:** September 15, 2006, 03:25:14 PM »

Yes Dan, I think Skuzzy had mentioned something along the lines of late war having everything enabled...which I think is good. I also think that asking for the old MA to be put up with the combination of the new arenas would fail miserably since I truly believe that the majority of players would end up in there again and we would have 3 new AvA arenas with 20 people on.

This will take time to get used to and to work out the kinks, lets bear with it and give 'em some time guys.

rod367th · « **Reply #320 on:** September 15, 2006, 03:28:00 PM »

THE SKY IS FALLING

Iron_Cross · « **Reply #321 on:** September 15, 2006, 03:49:08 PM »

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Originally posted by Lusche
If you are a kind of purist who just lives for the pure aerial fight, if you like prearranged extended 1v1 or 2v2 fights, then it�s great. But many players just love the big "epic" (ok, now I�m exaggerating a bit) battles for bases, combined GV/fighter buff actions with much more participants.

I�m fond of a good furball or a hard fought duel from time to time, but it�s getting boring very fast for me.

Also AvA numbers dropped of considerably after a short time, I think that may be one reason for this...

1. The only placed for "Prearranged" fights is TA or DA, so that argument will go in the circular file for now.

2. Obviously you did not see the "epic" battle in the Early Arena, between A1 and A2. Again your argument finds no purchase.

3. YMMV

4. AvA numbers droped because IMHO things got stale, with the narrow restricted planesets. Yes we have a restricted planeset, but a much wider selection than the 4 or 5 planes you could have selected in the AvA arena. Also if you didn't like the setup at that particular time, you didn't log in to AvA you logged into the Main, another reason the AvA arena had low numbers.

IMHO this is great for the community in general, despite the nay sayers. You still get to fly the planes you want. If you want to fly a Spit I, you can, and not have to worry about getting totaly OWNED by the 4-6 La-7's/Niki's/Dora's looking to pad their score.

68Ripper · « **Reply #322 on:** September 15, 2006, 03:53:48 PM »

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Originally posted by DaPup
. I also think that asking for the old MA to be put up with the combination of the new arenas would fail miserably since I truly believe that the majority of players would end up in there again and we would have 3 new AvA arenas with 20 people on.

going out on a limb here, but you think there might be a GOOD REASON why most would go back to the MA?? Maybe because they don't want to be forced to fly planes they don't want to fly simply because the Arena that has their favorites is either full or empty?? Geez

Domin · « **Reply #323 on:** September 15, 2006, 04:01:07 PM »

Well the late arena now has the full planeset. And it is also by far the most populated arena. How could that be? Maybe people were not just looking for attention and really did like main? Interesting. Now we have the best of both worlds.

Overlag · « **Reply #324 on:** September 15, 2006, 04:01:48 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
I don't really like one on ones much either for the most part... I love 5 on 7's or 7 on 7's... or 30 on 25's or whatever. why couldn't that happen?

My point is that you have the same planes to choose from and the same amount of players to use these resources yet.... you can't play the way you want?

What do you want? you are going to have to lay it out for me cause I don't understand. 70 people is still 70 people.

lazs
Public Relations Officer for the BK's

have you not noticed that they are now spread between 3 arena's?!?!

70 players IS NOT 70 in one arena now, its 20 in one, 15 in another, and 35 in another.

SIK1 · « **Reply #325 on:** September 15, 2006, 04:02:42 PM »

Truthfuly I don't think I would ever go back to the old MA as long as there is a EW, and MW arena. Flying in the MW arena last night was refreshing, the chatter on 200 was civil, if not friendly. The fights for the most part were good, no lala's picken and runnin'. Numbers were about even between sides.

Kind of reminded me of the old AW days, and I think just about everybody will agree that AW had one heck of a community.

Sure HTC has some tweaking to do, but all in all a great move to improve both the game and the community that is the true heart of the game.

SIK1

Baine · « **Reply #326 on:** September 15, 2006, 04:03:54 PM »

So let me get this straight: the main problem with the old MA was that Lazs couldn't take off or land?
Maybe HiTech shoulda given him some flying lessons and left the MA alone.
Or maybe with 17645 posts he shoulda spent some more time flying and less posting. Who knows?

68Ripper · « **Reply #327 on:** September 15, 2006, 04:04:00 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
lusche... I am still not getting it...

Are you saying that the total number of players on durring off peak hours has dropped or that the number is about the same but the 3 arenas are splitting it up?

If it is the former that's bad... the latter... the players should be able to fix. simply all go to the same arena... choose up sides and it should be as good or better than it was in the old MA.

lazs
Public Relations Officer for the BK's

So it's sounds to me like the off peak hour guys have to pay to play in a arena they don't want to be in because it doesn't have their plane set in there, just to try to have a good time

hubsonfire · « **Reply #328 on:** September 15, 2006, 04:09:22 PM »

No, what they're saying is that with more choices, other people are logging into other arenas, so it's harder to force them to play the same way it was just a few days ago.

rogerdee · « **Reply #329 on:** September 15, 2006, 04:16:24 PM »

i came on went in ea arena not many people mostly on one side spent 20 minutes looking for a fight all i found was a horde vulching 1 filed and not wanting to fight.the arena reset itself and we all got booted.

went in to middle arena 70 guys but one side still out numberd 4 to 1 and still no onw wanted to fight.

finaly went to late which is just like the old MA now bit only with 250 guys.

if its going to be a cap on a erna at least make it a country cap
eg 210 players allowed in so thats 70 per side.

i like flying early war planes but its not fun when only 25 people there and then when it did get busy couldnt get in because it was full and ended in the miiddle with 40 guys .

sucks