New arena format Part 2 - Use this thread, don't open duplicates

[DREDIOCK]

Well was disabled LAST NIGHT lol
Might not be any mo

[hubsonfire]

Originally posted by Spatula
How about this for a suggestion:

Have 2 Main Arenas. Early War, and a Late War. Difference is that there are no plane limitations in either arena. Use the existing perk system to balance the arenas. But this time use the perk system with some nads for a change. In the EW you enable 1939 - 1942 aircraft, and in the LW you enable ALL aircraft. In the EW for each plane introduced after 1940 are perked and progressively get more expensive the later they were introduced. Do the same thing in the LW arena but start at 1942 etc.

My point is have two arenas, one which allows early to mid planes, but all mid planes cost. The other you allow mid to late and all late planes cost.

What do you think?

It wouldn't work any better in smaller arenas than it would have in the MA. The performance/armament disparities are more pronounced in the EW planes, and giving every vet or vulcher free reign in perk rides vs all the noobs in EW planes would be a recipe for frustration.

[Panzzer]

Originally posted by KAntti
Reason why AvA died .....

But it ain't dead yet. Had some good fights in there today, even after the Main Arenas came back.

People seem to think that an arena with less than 100 people (or whatever the limit) is dead, usually I could find a better fight faster in the AvA (even with only 2 people in there) than in the MA, now in the Early War arena furballing seems to be a hit. I still haven't been to the other arenas yet. But the change looks good to me.

[Tilt]

I think I would prefer the EW arena to draw the line for all vehicles and  ac at  the end of Dec 41.

Perking the Spit V and the Hurri IIc

This would leave the M3 and the Jeep as the only 2 vehicles in this arena.


I think I would prefer the MW arena to draw the line for all vehicles and  ac at  the end of Dec 43.  Possibly make an exception for the Panzer MkIV to let it in.

Maybe perk the MkVIII and the Typhoon (if it becomes unbalancing)

Some of the mid to late 44  stuff flying in the mid war is silly some stuff even later than the La7!

[Lusche]

Originally posted by Tilt
I think I would prefer the EW arena to draw the line for all vehicles and  ac at  the end of Dec 41.

Perking the Spit V and the Hurri IIc

This would leave the M3 and the Jeep as the only 2 vehicles in this arena.

 

But I always thought  the T34 was already in use 1941?

[zorstorer]

Originally posted by lazs2
I don't really like one on ones much either for the most part... I love 5 on 7's or 7 on 7's...   or 30 on 25's or whatever.   why couldn't that happen?

My point is that you have the same planes to choose from and the same amount of players to use these resources yet.... you can't play the way you want?  

What do you want?  you are going to have to lay it out for me cause I don't understand.   70 people is still 70 people.

lazs
Public Relations Officer for the BK's

I can answer that....tell me what arena to log into to get the chance to shoot down a la7 or spit16 with a hurri mk1?

[68Ripper]

Originally posted by Edbert1
Because it WAS broke, has been since attendance reached over 350-400 players.

and...not directed at you Hammy...

For all those naysayers who think this was rushed into place without much thought...and no testing (which is occuring rioght now while you pi$$ and moan)...you have no idea how HTC does their job...or in fact who Dale and Doug are...if you actually beleive such drivel.

For all those who want the old MA back...it is still there...the late war arena has nearly every ride enabled...if ENY is a problem it is due to the players not the game designers...sure it has a cap, but that is not a factor since it is less popular...I don't think it has ever been full since the change...what you miss is in fact ganging with your 30+ squaddies...and milkrunning undefended (or at least underdefended) bases in uber-rides...because those things are all that has really been reduced.

All right Mr brilliance, you sound like the type of person that someone could sell a car to, take your money and then tell you oh by the way this is just a proto type there may be a few bugs like the transmission may fall out or the engine may quit on you but hey you bought it and we will watch and see how your new purchase turns out. And by the way your Old car was just smashed in our compactor.

Change is good but you should never put a untested product out to your customer base. Just doesn't make sense. People have concerns about the game most have been playing for years. And just like you they have a right to voice those concerns.

[4510]

Originally posted by Edbert1
I agree with Yeager and Lazs on the balance/inbalance of the sides here, the PLAYERS are the cause of that not HTC. The only thing that needs to be done is that the timer that restricts team changing needs to be shortened to 30 minutes or eliminated altogether.

Last night when I logged on the EW was pretty balanced, I switched to Bish to fly with a squaddie and within an hour or so the Bish were about 50% of the arena population. I did not like being ENY limited because my team started ganging, it was as bad as being part of the gang in the first place. I prefer to fight the lamers in the gang than be a part of it, but I could not switch back.

As you mention.. swapping sides constantly to try and keep numbers even is difficult.   And.. that is using the thought process of only being interested in Air to Air fights, not field capture etc. which is important to some flyers.  

For squads of any size to swap back and forth, it becomes very difficult.

[Tilt]

Originally posted by Lusche
But I always thought  the T34 was already in use 1941?

Ours is late 42/early 43 version

[Overlag]

Originally posted by Edbert1
...and milkrunning undefended (or at least underdefended) bases in uber-rides...because those things are all that has really been reduced.

you just summed up the new arenas

[Edbert1]

Originally posted by Overlag
you just summed up the new arenas

Maybe the LW/MW arenas, I cannot comment since I've only flown in the EW since the change. But I did not see any milkrunning of undefended bases last night (US prime-time), although I'll acknowlege that may be different in GMT prime-time.

[Edbert1]

Originally posted by 68Ripper
All right Mr brilliance, you sound like the type of person that someone could sell a car to, take your money and then tell you oh by the way this is just a proto type there may be a few bugs like the transmission may fall out or the engine may quit on you but hey you bought it and we will watch and see how your new purchase turns out. And by the way your Old car was just smashed in our compactor.
 

 Lighten up Francis, have you been watching the Oxygen channel or Lifetime? Cut the drama for a while. Or are you suggesting the addition of two arenas and a population cap on the old one is the equivalent of a transmission falling out of a new car? Nevermind, it is clear you are equating the two.

[Mugzeee]

just experienced my first lockout. Tried LW1 where 6 or so squadies are conducting ops..couldnt get in. Thought..welp maybe we move to LW2..oops  only 40 players in there..and our 6 or 8 will only make it 48 or so..sound like fun? [size= huge]B O R I N I G[/size]  While it is true i have a choice..There is nothing on the shelf that fits or is apealing.

[baine1]

Originally posted by The Fugitive
If you guys had read the original post by Pyro.... 1000 posts ago... instead of spending all your time here crying you would have seen that they were working on this stuff and trying to get it implemented ASAP. Thats why so many people are saying "give it a chance" because HTC is very good at updates and fixes. They know they won't get it right the first time without any bugs.... heck Skuzzy's STILL tripping over the power cord !

Give it a few weeks, and you'll see think start to settle down.

So let's see, you buy a car that doesn't have any wheels, but give Ford some time, they'll fix it?
My complaint about this whole thing is that many, many, many of these problems could have been forseen and addressed before the first person entered the new arenas and yet they were not. It's not like this had to happen NOW. They could have waited a week and addressed all possible bugs.
If you want to implement something new and get people to give it a chance, then you take a look at the forseeable problems and fix them before they occur. If you want to get them extraordinarily pissed off and closed minded about the whole thing, role out a half-assed version and let the fireworks begin.
The way this thing was rolled out is either an example of laziness or total disregard for the customer base. I'd expected better.

[Mugzeee]

Originally posted by lazs2
maybe I am still not understanding the complaints...

lazs
Public Relations Officer for the BK's

Of course you not silly.